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The idea of leaving my kids with some stranger for 6hrs a day, who may or may not have ulterior motives behind what they are telling my children, is kind of ter

The idea of leaving my kids with some stranger for 6hrs a day, who may or may not have ulterior motives behind what they are telling my children, is kind of terrifying. There was a scandal in our school district recently where an assembly included a drag show that students were forced to watch and parents were not notified of ahead of time. I'll take my chances teaching them calculus instead. I picked it up eventually they will too.

codeonline 4y ago
There is so much about this comment that I disagree with that's its hard to know where to start. I'll choose just one point, hopefully the least contentious. Your child isn't being educated by 'some stranger'. They are being educated by someone with the required level of educational attainment themselves. There is a robust regulatory framework in place to ensure this as well as to address issues relating to the physical school environs and the curriculum taught. They have passed the necessary background checks and continue to do so. Those chose to become educators, at time and expense to themselves. I could go on but I won't labour the point
- rosiesherry 4y ago
  This doesn't address the issue of whether teaching the way schools teach is actually not very effective. Self directed learning (which is basically unschooling) is so powerful and it's not uncommon for kids to go from zero reading to reading thick books (like Harry Potter, for example), within 6 months. Kids/people have to want to learn and it's hard to manage that in a school setting. I know as an adult that I can't learn things that I'm not interested in, it's the same for kids. And the curriculum is generally not very interesting.
  - klyrs 4y ago
    > This doesn't address the issue of whether teaching the way schools teach is actually not very effective. Learning to see through bullshit, and play along enough to get by has been a valuable skill in my life.
    - rosiesherry 4y ago
      It can also lead to massive burnout and mental health problems.
- throwntoday 4y ago
  >Your child isn't being educated by 'some stranger'. This person is not my friend or family. They are a stranger. How they conduct themselves during an annual parent-teacher conference, PTA meetings, etc. is no indication of their behavior when I am not around. >There is a robust regulatory framework in place to ensure this as well as to address issues relating to the physical school environs and the curriculum taught. That does not stop them from inserting their own biases or whatever nonsense ideology they want to peddle. If what you said was even true, there wouldn't be lousy teachers that make the process of learning more difficult for students.
- subsaharancoder 4y ago
  Passing a background check and getting the required level of educational attainment at great expense does not give the teachers the right to exclude the parents from key decision making. We really need to get past the deification of university trained teachers as though they hold mystical insight into the child's mild beyond the knowledge and grasp of the parents.
- freehorse 4y ago
  When I read such comments I just feel so sorry for the kids.
animitronix 4y ago
Then pull your kids, homeschool them, and stop complaining.
jonny_eh 4y ago
What's wrong with drag shows? At least, beyond being overblown hysteria pushed by Fox News?

codeonline 4y ago

There is so much about this comment that I disagree with that's its hard to know where to start. I'll choose just one point, hopefully the least contentious. Your child isn't being educated by 'some stranger'. They are being educated by someone with the required level of educational attainment themselves. There is a robust regulatory framework in place to ensure this as well as to address issues relating to the physical school environs and the curriculum taught. They have passed the necessary background checks and continue to do so. Those chose to become educators, at time and expense to themselves. I could go on but I won't labour the point

rosiesherry 4y ago
This doesn't address the issue of whether teaching the way schools teach is actually not very effective. Self directed learning (which is basically unschooling) is so powerful and it's not uncommon for kids to go from zero reading to reading thick books (like Harry Potter, for example), within 6 months. Kids/people have to want to learn and it's hard to manage that in a school setting. I know as an adult that I can't learn things that I'm not interested in, it's the same for kids. And the curriculum is generally not very interesting.
- klyrs 4y ago
  > This doesn't address the issue of whether teaching the way schools teach is actually not very effective. Learning to see through bullshit, and play along enough to get by has been a valuable skill in my life.
  - rosiesherry 4y ago
    It can also lead to massive burnout and mental health problems.
throwntoday 4y ago
>Your child isn't being educated by 'some stranger'. This person is not my friend or family. They are a stranger. How they conduct themselves during an annual parent-teacher conference, PTA meetings, etc. is no indication of their behavior when I am not around. >There is a robust regulatory framework in place to ensure this as well as to address issues relating to the physical school environs and the curriculum taught. That does not stop them from inserting their own biases or whatever nonsense ideology they want to peddle. If what you said was even true, there wouldn't be lousy teachers that make the process of learning more difficult for students.
subsaharancoder 4y ago
Passing a background check and getting the required level of educational attainment at great expense does not give the teachers the right to exclude the parents from key decision making. We really need to get past the deification of university trained teachers as though they hold mystical insight into the child's mild beyond the knowledge and grasp of the parents.
freehorse 4y ago
When I read such comments I just feel so sorry for the kids.

animitronix 4y ago

Then pull your kids, homeschool them, and stop complaining.

jonny_eh 4y ago

What's wrong with drag shows? At least, beyond being overblown hysteria pushed by Fox News?