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something to note DHH is a beast. MSRK seems most of MSRK was written by him alone - https://github.com/mrsked/mrsk/commits/main?after=83dc82661b8a02dd1fbb0ee91

by dzonga 4y ago

something to note DHH is a beast. MSRK seems most of MSRK was written by him alone - https://github.com/mrsked/mrsk/commits/main?after=83dc82661b8a02dd1fbb0ee91261104cee127862+594&branch=main&qualified_name=refs%2Fheads%2Fmain https://github.com/mrsked/mrsk/commits/main?after=83dc82661b... his output is crazy. that's why he gets the big bucks

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tiffanyh 4y ago
I think what’s more shocking is they were still using Capistrano for the past ~17 years. https://world.hey.com/dhh/introducing-mrsk-9330a267 https://world.hey.com/dhh/introducing-mrsk-9330a267
- atonse 4y ago
  I sorely missed Capistrano all these years I moved off rails. The closest the elixir ecosystem had to it (that I found) was edeliver. So why fix something that ain’t broken?
- faizshah 4y ago
  Interestingly there has been a resurgence of the Capistrano approach in the PHP community with ansistrano: https://github.com/ansistrano/deploy https://github.com/ansistrano/deploy That’s Capistrano v2 implemented in Ansible. Honestly been tempted just to try it on a side project for fun.
  - malinens 4y ago
    At my work we use Capistrano for PHP projects. It does not matter in which language project is written. You can still use ruby Capistrano and it works good enough
rsanheim 4y ago
This is a great point, and something that I think of often as someone who has been building rails apps for almost 20 years. Once MSRK has gotten "good enough" for whatever Basecamp needs and DHH has moved on, how many other folks with the dedication and skills will help take over when maintenance and weird edge cases surface? So far the rails community has been strong enough where this _usually_ isn't an issue, but it definitely is a real concern. You can see the impact of this in some of the recent asset bundling solutions DHH spiked out and then mostly left to the community, where things like js-bundling and css-bundling are close but not completely solid for a bunch of use cases.
- hokumguru 4y ago
  I mean isn’t that most open source software? Company releases a tool but only maintains it for themselves, sometimes working with the community to update it.
donio 4y ago
It's 2K lines of code and another 2K tests.
- Alifatisk 4y ago
  What does the loc tell you?
  - donio 4y ago
    That you can go and read through the code in about 5 minutes and see that the only thing special about it is the name of the author. I don't get why HN is going crazy about this. Please tell me if I am missing something obvious.
    - lloydatkinson 4y ago
      Because it flies directly in the face of the "cloud everything" or "kubernetes cultism" that seem prevalent. It's a change, basically.
      - ignoramous 4y ago
        > "cloud everything" or "kubernetes cultism" that seem prevalent. Not here? To me, general sentiment on news.yc has been anti cloud / k8s for at least 5 years, if not more.
    - chillfox 4y ago
      I am guessing that a lot of people who entered the industry since big cloud was a thing never learnt the basics of how to deploy on servers, so these 2000 lines of code are absolutely magic to them. Personally I use a ~200 line shell script + docker to deploy self hosted apps on a cheap office computer that lives under my desk.
TheFragenTaken 4y ago
I've always been fascinated with DHH. On top of his programming skills, and CTO of Basecamp, he drives the prototype class in the World Endurance Championship. Absolute beast.
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mattbrewsbytes 4y ago
Sticking with a technology for a long period of time pays the dividend of being able to crank out stuff like its a reflex. I get that DHH created Rails framework so he is intimately knowledgeable but this concept of sticking with and going deep on a tech stack will be much better for someone's career than hopping to whatever fad is trending.

by dzonga 4y ago

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tiffanyh 4y ago

I think what’s more shocking is they were still using Capistrano for the past ~17 years. https://world.hey.com/dhh/introducing-mrsk-9330a267 https://world.hey.com/dhh/introducing-mrsk-9330a267

atonse 4y ago
I sorely missed Capistrano all these years I moved off rails. The closest the elixir ecosystem had to it (that I found) was edeliver. So why fix something that ain’t broken?
faizshah 4y ago
Interestingly there has been a resurgence of the Capistrano approach in the PHP community with ansistrano: https://github.com/ansistrano/deploy https://github.com/ansistrano/deploy That’s Capistrano v2 implemented in Ansible. Honestly been tempted just to try it on a side project for fun.
- malinens 4y ago
  At my work we use Capistrano for PHP projects. It does not matter in which language project is written. You can still use ruby Capistrano and it works good enough

rsanheim 4y ago

This is a great point, and something that I think of often as someone who has been building rails apps for almost 20 years. Once MSRK has gotten "good enough" for whatever Basecamp needs and DHH has moved on, how many other folks with the dedication and skills will help take over when maintenance and weird edge cases surface? So far the rails community has been strong enough where this _usually_ isn't an issue, but it definitely is a real concern. You can see the impact of this in some of the recent asset bundling solutions DHH spiked out and then mostly left to the community, where things like js-bundling and css-bundling are close but not completely solid for a bunch of use cases.

hokumguru 4y ago
I mean isn’t that most open source software? Company releases a tool but only maintains it for themselves, sometimes working with the community to update it.

donio 4y ago

It's 2K lines of code and another 2K tests.

Alifatisk 4y ago
What does the loc tell you?
- donio 4y ago
  That you can go and read through the code in about 5 minutes and see that the only thing special about it is the name of the author. I don't get why HN is going crazy about this. Please tell me if I am missing something obvious.
  - lloydatkinson 4y ago
    Because it flies directly in the face of the "cloud everything" or "kubernetes cultism" that seem prevalent. It's a change, basically.
    - ignoramous 4y ago
      > "cloud everything" or "kubernetes cultism" that seem prevalent. Not here? To me, general sentiment on news.yc has been anti cloud / k8s for at least 5 years, if not more.
  - chillfox 4y ago
    I am guessing that a lot of people who entered the industry since big cloud was a thing never learnt the basics of how to deploy on servers, so these 2000 lines of code are absolutely magic to them. Personally I use a ~200 line shell script + docker to deploy self hosted apps on a cheap office computer that lives under my desk.

TheFragenTaken 4y ago

I've always been fascinated with DHH. On top of his programming skills, and CTO of Basecamp, he drives the prototype class in the World Endurance Championship. Absolute beast.

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mattbrewsbytes 4y ago

Sticking with a technology for a long period of time pays the dividend of being able to crank out stuff like its a reflex. I get that DHH created Rails framework so he is intimately knowledgeable but this concept of sticking with and going deep on a tech stack will be much better for someone's career than hopping to whatever fad is trending.