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Google's weather feature on Android does this :) They don't call it "high" and "low", instead calling it "day" and "night".

by cglong 4y ago

tshaddox 4y ago
What if the low temperature is forecast to be at noon?
- ethbr0 4y ago
  Then you live in Antarctica, it's winter, and you're out of scope.
  - tshaddox 4y ago
    Definitely not. It’s common in places where the weather actually changes due to things other than the time of day, i.e. where cold systems move in. For example, look at the forecasts in the Chicago area where tomorrow (March 23) it’s going to be a fair bit colder at noon than at 1am. This is not at all uncommon, and is in fact precisely why it’s important to check the weather forecast in the morning on normal days when you’re deciding what to wear.
    - ethbr0 4y ago
      Okay, so Antarctica, Chicago, and Cleveland. But the broader point is that the utility of an overnight temperature is that it happens while most people are sleeping, and thus unable to respond to it. Fluctuations while one is awake can be coped with. IMHO, the most reasonable intuitive measures would be: overnight low, rain during the midnight-to-midnight day
      - tshaddox 4y ago
        > Okay, so Antarctica, Chicago, and Cleveland. Really anywhere where temperatures change frequently for reasons other than the time of day. Probably the vast majority of people who use temperature forecasts in consumer weather apps. > But the broader point is that the utility of an overnight temperature is that it happens while most people are sleeping, and thus unable to respond to it. > Fluctuations while one is awake can be coped with. I couldn't disagree more. Surely the most common use case by far for quick checks of the daily forecast is simply to decide what to wear when you leave the house in the morning. If you're unhoused, or camping, or you work at night, or you're a gardener, then of course overnight temperature forecasts are also vital.
      - dwaite 4y ago
        > Okay, so Antarctica, Chicago, and Cleveland. And the entire state of Colorado. It is not that uncommon for our daily high to be at 12am, or for the temperature to drop 30F between a midday high and dusk as a front moves in. These aren't conditions you can describe with just two temperature points, no matter where they are anchored. For overnight temperatures, many people just want badging to know if there is a frost/freeze condition - e.g., is there a weather condition they need to deal with while they would otherwise be sleeping.
- cglong 4y ago
  It's a good question, and something I was kinda wondering too. I see now it's technically written as: > Day 58°↑ • Night 48°↓ Maybe the arrows are used to indicate the high and low?

Google's weather feature on Android does this :) They don't call it "high" and "low", instead calling it "day" and "night".

by cglong 4y ago

Google's weather feature on Android does this :) They don't call it "high" and "low", instead calling it "day" and "night".

tshaddox 4y ago

What if the low temperature is forecast to be at noon?

ethbr0 4y ago
Then you live in Antarctica, it's winter, and you're out of scope.
- tshaddox 4y ago
  Definitely not. It’s common in places where the weather actually changes due to things other than the time of day, i.e. where cold systems move in. For example, look at the forecasts in the Chicago area where tomorrow (March 23) it’s going to be a fair bit colder at noon than at 1am. This is not at all uncommon, and is in fact precisely why it’s important to check the weather forecast in the morning on normal days when you’re deciding what to wear.
  - ethbr0 4y ago
    Okay, so Antarctica, Chicago, and Cleveland. But the broader point is that the utility of an overnight temperature is that it happens while most people are sleeping, and thus unable to respond to it. Fluctuations while one is awake can be coped with. IMHO, the most reasonable intuitive measures would be: overnight low, rain during the midnight-to-midnight day
    - tshaddox 4y ago
      > Okay, so Antarctica, Chicago, and Cleveland. Really anywhere where temperatures change frequently for reasons other than the time of day. Probably the vast majority of people who use temperature forecasts in consumer weather apps. > But the broader point is that the utility of an overnight temperature is that it happens while most people are sleeping, and thus unable to respond to it. > Fluctuations while one is awake can be coped with. I couldn't disagree more. Surely the most common use case by far for quick checks of the daily forecast is simply to decide what to wear when you leave the house in the morning. If you're unhoused, or camping, or you work at night, or you're a gardener, then of course overnight temperature forecasts are also vital.
    - dwaite 4y ago
      > Okay, so Antarctica, Chicago, and Cleveland. And the entire state of Colorado. It is not that uncommon for our daily high to be at 12am, or for the temperature to drop 30F between a midday high and dusk as a front moves in. These aren't conditions you can describe with just two temperature points, no matter where they are anchored. For overnight temperatures, many people just want badging to know if there is a frost/freeze condition - e.g., is there a weather condition they need to deal with while they would otherwise be sleeping.
cglong 4y ago
It's a good question, and something I was kinda wondering too. I see now it's technically written as: > Day 58°↑ • Night 48°↓ Maybe the arrows are used to indicate the high and low?