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"Build integrations with services" is the silliest possible advice for Mozilla to be getting on Hacker News. Any time people talk about Mozilla on this website,

"Build integrations with services" is the silliest possible advice for Mozilla to be getting on Hacker News. Any time people talk about Mozilla on this website, you see comments about Pocket or VPN or any of the other integrations Mozilla did, and most of the comments (if not all) are negative. Persona is the closest thing I can think of and that was a failure, nobody wanted it. As a former member of both the Firefox and Chrome teams I think you're also deeply misunderstanding the difference in scope and scale of the teams and the products. The thing you're suggesting Mozilla should Just Do Somehow is not feasible.

insanitybit 4y ago
> Any time people talk about Mozilla on this website, you see comments about Pocket or VPN or any of the other integrations Mozilla did, and most of the comments (if not all) are negative a) Pocket is by far the one that gets criticized, not the VPN. Besides, the VPN is primarily criticized because VPN companies tend to be really scummy. The VPN is fine I guess it's just not interesting and I don't see how it's going to drive user engagement. b) HN criticisms aren't representative of anything too meaningful. People constantly post about their pet bugs that they think matter to everyone but they don't. The integrations I'm talking about are ones that Chrome already has and that would be a huge boon to Enterprise users. Users who have to use a browser at work are going to end up using it at home to avoid the UX friction of using both, other than a subset of "power users" who won't be convinced anyways. Getting Enterprise users is huge and it's a big part of why Chrome is winning - their integrations with identity management is massive and it's part of their overall strategy as an IDP. > The thing you're suggesting Mozilla should Just Do Somehow is not feasible. That's nonsense. There are already third party extensions for some endpoint verification for Firefox. We're talking about a 1st party plugin built by a company that just spend 30 Million dollars on this "safe AI" project. There are startups building entire IDPs with a 10th of that funding.

insanitybit 4y ago

> Any time people talk about Mozilla on this website, you see comments about Pocket or VPN or any of the other integrations Mozilla did, and most of the comments (if not all) are negative a) Pocket is by far the one that gets criticized, not the VPN. Besides, the VPN is primarily criticized because VPN companies tend to be really scummy. The VPN is fine I guess it's just not interesting and I don't see how it's going to drive user engagement. b) HN criticisms aren't representative of anything too meaningful. People constantly post about their pet bugs that they think matter to everyone but they don't. The integrations I'm talking about are ones that Chrome already has and that would be a huge boon to Enterprise users. Users who have to use a browser at work are going to end up using it at home to avoid the UX friction of using both, other than a subset of "power users" who won't be convinced anyways. Getting Enterprise users is huge and it's a big part of why Chrome is winning - their integrations with identity management is massive and it's part of their overall strategy as an IDP. > The thing you're suggesting Mozilla should Just Do Somehow is not feasible. That's nonsense. There are already third party extensions for some endpoint verification for Firefox. We're talking about a 1st party plugin built by a company that just spend 30 Million dollars on this "safe AI" project. There are startups building entire IDPs with a 10th of that funding.