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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but what I think you're saying is: for most adults it's not about the wellbeing of young people, but a cliché "think of the chil

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but what I think you're saying is: for most adults it's not about the wellbeing of young people, but a cliché "think of the children". If that's the case, I'd agree and disagree. In my personal circle a lot of people around me are interested in young people. They work with troubled kids as social workers and genuinely care about their work; often trying to involve kids they've helped in decision-making processes. This is sometimes halted by higher-ups, who disregard what children, especially "troubled teens" have to say. Getting direct feedback from young people is truly not done as often as it should be and I would agree that young people are often talked about or talked over. In systems where children are the "clients" like at schools or as part of social programs, it's integral to actually consider their perspectives. I'm afraid I don't understand your last argument? When I was 15 I did care about decisions politicians made about my body.

watwut 4y ago
In my personal circles, there are interested people. In internet debates over this topic I have seen, there are very little of them. It is just stroking panic using girls as pawns. Just like think of trans children was just an pretention to get support for general attack on trans everything. Like common. Past HN debates about this topic were full of condescension toward young girls, full of projection onto them and the most often repeated solution was "take away all tech from them with no debate, regardless of what they think and do zero additional effort to help them socialize". This is not about helping anyone. This is about getting laws you want and punishing them. > When I was 15 I did care about decisions politicians made about my body. Quite a lot of them see it as distanced and far away from their own lifes.

watwut 4y ago

In my personal circles, there are interested people. In internet debates over this topic I have seen, there are very little of them. It is just stroking panic using girls as pawns. Just like think of trans children was just an pretention to get support for general attack on trans everything. Like common. Past HN debates about this topic were full of condescension toward young girls, full of projection onto them and the most often repeated solution was "take away all tech from them with no debate, regardless of what they think and do zero additional effort to help them socialize". This is not about helping anyone. This is about getting laws you want and punishing them. > When I was 15 I did care about decisions politicians made about my body. Quite a lot of them see it as distanced and far away from their own lifes.