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I think something you should consider is the heirarchical nature and the tight integration of business, politics and social policy in the CCP vs the US. In the
by genmud 4y ago
I think something you should consider is the heirarchical nature and the tight integration of business, politics and social policy in the CCP vs the US.
In the US, it’s more like a loose federation of aligned interests vs a top down, integrated system. If Facebook is doing bad things and being used to facilitate propaganda, it’s largely a failure of Facebook and the lack of appropriate legislation or oversight.
Whereas TikTok has been accused of promoting pro-China viewpoints, and the reality is the way business is operated there, the lines are blurred between what TikTok the company does and what TikTok the CCP controlled entity does.
- giraffe_lady 4y agoI'm too strict a consequentialist to care honestly. US tech companies further US imperial interests, as chinese tech companies further chinese imperial interests. The specific incentives and mechanisms by which they do it aren't that important for this case. The whole argument seems to center on the assumption that the US's imperial interests are better than china's, which I disagree with. They are possibly better for americans, in the same way that china's are possibly better for chinese people, and so I can understand a self-interested support of one over the other. But I don't think that's a consistent or moral position. Undermining chinese interests in favor of american ones is not actually better than undermining american interests in favor of chinese ones. Both are terrible and both must be opposed; to a significant extent they are expressions of the same evil.