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There's also Mac-on-Linux (MOL), which I've been using from ~1999 to run the original OS under Linux on my Mac hardware until I dropped Mac OS completely a few

There's also Mac-on-Linux (MOL), which I've been using from ~1999 to run the original OS under Linux on my Mac hardware until I dropped Mac OS completely a few years later. It does require a PPC host. I remember back then MOL was preferable to SheepShaver, but I don't remember why anymore. [1] https://www.maconlinux.net/ https://www.maconlinux.net/

goosedragons 4y ago
Fun fact! You can use Mac on Linux to run Mac OS on your Nintendo Wii.
- rvense 4y ago
  How well does that work? I (not a gamer) only recently learned of the Wii U and thought it would be great for that exact thing.
  - goosedragons 4y ago
    Doesn't seem perfect but this is also an original Wii and not the Wii U: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhDQicLvHNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhDQicLvHNQ I'm not sure if MOL will work on the newer kernel used by Wii U linux though.
yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago
> I remember back then MOL was preferable to SheepShaver, but I don't remember why anymore. Speculation: Running on native hardware probably give you better performance, and probably meant that you didn't have to provide a ROM file because it could just read the chip that's actually installed in the machine.
- memsom 4y ago
  Sheepshaver runs natively on supported Macs under BeOS and you likewise don’t need a ROM file as it uses the one built in to your Mac. The real reason is probably it doesn’t support MacOS past 8.5 really. Not well.
  - pflanze 4y ago
    I had MacOS 9, so that, performance, may have been part of it. Seems MOL emulated an MMU. Although, IIRC I ended up disabling virtual memory / swapping inside MacOS, and just give the emulated Mac more RAM, because doing the swapping purely on the Linux side was more performant. I liked the idea that Linux was simply more powerful, although it might have just been the interaction between the two caches. :) I remember I was also very pleased to get copy-paste working between the systems, but I may have had to install something for this.
pajko 4y ago
SheepShaver does not run MacOS X, just the classic, while MOL runs both. Been using MOL about at the same time to check out OS X, which led me buying a Pismo, my first and last Apple machine.

goosedragons 4y ago

Fun fact! You can use Mac on Linux to run Mac OS on your Nintendo Wii.

rvense 4y ago
How well does that work? I (not a gamer) only recently learned of the Wii U and thought it would be great for that exact thing.
- goosedragons 4y ago
  Doesn't seem perfect but this is also an original Wii and not the Wii U: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhDQicLvHNQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhDQicLvHNQ I'm not sure if MOL will work on the newer kernel used by Wii U linux though.

yjftsjthsd-h 4y ago

> I remember back then MOL was preferable to SheepShaver, but I don't remember why anymore. Speculation: Running on native hardware probably give you better performance, and probably meant that you didn't have to provide a ROM file because it could just read the chip that's actually installed in the machine.

memsom 4y ago
Sheepshaver runs natively on supported Macs under BeOS and you likewise don’t need a ROM file as it uses the one built in to your Mac. The real reason is probably it doesn’t support MacOS past 8.5 really. Not well.
- pflanze 4y ago
  I had MacOS 9, so that, performance, may have been part of it. Seems MOL emulated an MMU. Although, IIRC I ended up disabling virtual memory / swapping inside MacOS, and just give the emulated Mac more RAM, because doing the swapping purely on the Linux side was more performant. I liked the idea that Linux was simply more powerful, although it might have just been the interaction between the two caches. :) I remember I was also very pleased to get copy-paste working between the systems, but I may have had to install something for this.

pajko 4y ago

SheepShaver does not run MacOS X, just the classic, while MOL runs both. Been using MOL about at the same time to check out OS X, which led me buying a Pismo, my first and last Apple machine.