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A friend of mine is currently looking for .NET developer job in Switzerland. Looks like everyone there is doing a one day of on-site interviews with HR, technic

A friend of mine is currently looking for .NET developer job in Switzerland. Looks like everyone there is doing a one day of on-site interviews with HR, technical tests/pear programming and meeting managers.

LtWorf 4y ago
A German company had written to me to offer a (very well paid) position. They had an online test to take that I had to pass in order to actually have an interview (or more, I don't know how it worked with them). Anyway, the task they sent me was estimated to take 8 hours of work and couldn't be paused. I was on vacation, I didn't want to bother so I just declined.
- varispeed 4y ago
  > Anyway, the task they sent me was estimated to take 8 hours of work and couldn't be paused. Once I was given a task to create some validation code for given criteria and integrate it in the given project. They then invited me to an in person interview. At one point, I had to pair program with one of their developers and what I saw kind of shocked me. They integrated my code from the interview into their production code and their developer had an issue with it and asked me to help getting it working and write a couple of extra tests. So I did and they seemed very happy. I didn't get the job though. They said I am not a "cultural fit". I asked them if they actually used my code and if so they would have to pay me for the whole day, but they never responded afterwards. I decided it wouldn't be worth to legally pursue, but since then I decided to not do any pair programming or coding tests.
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  - newbie578 4y ago
    I actually noticed that started happening in Europe. Last month I had a similar experience, where a mobile startup wanted to hire me as a mobile developer, but wanted to test me, and the test was to implement a new feature and screen of their existing app released on the App Store.. I aced it, they were more than pleased, yet in the end they did not hire me as they said that they are actually closing the position because of the market downturn. At least they gave me a 50€ amazon gift card..
  - lclc 4y ago
    Please name the company. They deserve public shaming.
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  - prettyStandard 4y ago
    So your work is good enough to use in production, but not good enough to pay for? I would contact a lawyer on principle. Minimum write a Glassdoor review.
  - cbm-vic-20 4y ago
    > not a "cultural fit". That's a codeword to cover racism, sexism, and/or ageism.
    - varispeed 4y ago
      I am a bit on the spectrum and their team was quite younger than myself, they've been talking a lot about how they like to party together after work etc. Not my cup of tea, so to speak.
    - bombolo 4y ago
      Eh dunno. We rejected a guy just because he spoke really really slowly and figured it'd be unnerving to talk to him at that speed.
- devnullbrain 4y ago
  Welcome to the think-cell club. They solicit a huge amount of applications but very rarely hire people who make it beyond a year.
roflyear 4y ago
I was at a 10-hour one-day interview once. It was kind of nice, but also, crazy?
- aix1 4y ago
  Also probably says quite a lot about their working culture.
haspok 4y ago
I much prefer apple programming to pear programming. (ba dumm tsss.... sorry, couldn't resist :)) Although I'm on the Java side, I've yet to see a leetcode interview in CH, maybe I got lucky so far, but most of the interviews I had before were completely reasonable, maybe even too easy. The one that I failed miserably was an architecture discussion, in which I got an empty paper with a pen, and was expected to come up with the design of their existing system (I was allowed to ask questions). But even from that I learned so much, so no hard feelings. I will know much better what to do next time :)

LtWorf 4y ago

A German company had written to me to offer a (very well paid) position. They had an online test to take that I had to pass in order to actually have an interview (or more, I don't know how it worked with them). Anyway, the task they sent me was estimated to take 8 hours of work and couldn't be paused. I was on vacation, I didn't want to bother so I just declined.

varispeed 4y ago
> Anyway, the task they sent me was estimated to take 8 hours of work and couldn't be paused. Once I was given a task to create some validation code for given criteria and integrate it in the given project. They then invited me to an in person interview. At one point, I had to pair program with one of their developers and what I saw kind of shocked me. They integrated my code from the interview into their production code and their developer had an issue with it and asked me to help getting it working and write a couple of extra tests. So I did and they seemed very happy. I didn't get the job though. They said I am not a "cultural fit". I asked them if they actually used my code and if so they would have to pay me for the whole day, but they never responded afterwards. I decided it wouldn't be worth to legally pursue, but since then I decided to not do any pair programming or coding tests.
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- newbie578 4y ago
  I actually noticed that started happening in Europe. Last month I had a similar experience, where a mobile startup wanted to hire me as a mobile developer, but wanted to test me, and the test was to implement a new feature and screen of their existing app released on the App Store.. I aced it, they were more than pleased, yet in the end they did not hire me as they said that they are actually closing the position because of the market downturn. At least they gave me a 50€ amazon gift card..
- lclc 4y ago
  Please name the company. They deserve public shaming.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
- prettyStandard 4y ago
  So your work is good enough to use in production, but not good enough to pay for? I would contact a lawyer on principle. Minimum write a Glassdoor review.
- cbm-vic-20 4y ago
  > not a "cultural fit". That's a codeword to cover racism, sexism, and/or ageism.
  - varispeed 4y ago
    I am a bit on the spectrum and their team was quite younger than myself, they've been talking a lot about how they like to party together after work etc. Not my cup of tea, so to speak.
  - bombolo 4y ago
    Eh dunno. We rejected a guy just because he spoke really really slowly and figured it'd be unnerving to talk to him at that speed.
devnullbrain 4y ago
Welcome to the think-cell club. They solicit a huge amount of applications but very rarely hire people who make it beyond a year.

roflyear 4y ago

I was at a 10-hour one-day interview once. It was kind of nice, but also, crazy?

aix1 4y ago
Also probably says quite a lot about their working culture.

haspok 4y ago

I much prefer apple programming to pear programming. (ba dumm tsss.... sorry, couldn't resist :)) Although I'm on the Java side, I've yet to see a leetcode interview in CH, maybe I got lucky so far, but most of the interviews I had before were completely reasonable, maybe even too easy. The one that I failed miserably was an architecture discussion, in which I got an empty paper with a pen, and was expected to come up with the design of their existing system (I was allowed to ask questions). But even from that I learned so much, so no hard feelings. I will know much better what to do next time :)