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We have Haiku which is getting quite good and Amiga is still in production, their new computer that is currently in beta testing looks pretty good, they would p

We have Haiku which is getting quite good and Amiga is still in production, their new computer that is currently in beta testing looks pretty good, they would possibly get me to part with the money if they released a laptop.

VyseofArcadia 4y ago
I installed Haiku on an old netbook recently. It ran like a dream, except for kernel panicking every 5 minutes.
- waddlesplash 4y ago
  That's not normal behavior (these days, anyway!) A lot of users are able to go months without kernel panics, especially on certain kinds of older hardware. Did you report any of these panics?
- rebolek 4y ago
  I installed Haiku on an old Eee and yes it runs like dream and I haven't experienced single kernel panic yet. I'm thinking about installing it on something "bigger" than Eee as I was really surprised how usable and nice the OS is.
tialaramex 4y ago
> Amiga is still in production, their new computer that is currently in beta testing looks pretty good The Amiga "Tabor" or "A1222" is a very, very silly machine. Because they insist on PowerPC even though that's basically a long dead architecture, the best available CPU for it was the QorIQ P1022 a SOC designed to be inside say a mid-range Ethernet switch a decade ago. In the event they actually ship a product in some sort of volume (say, dozens) before NXP discontinue the processors altogether this would be far worse than a PC or Mac you could have bought in 2015 when it was conceived, and yet also far more expensive, very silly.
- ofalkaed 4y ago
  It is very very silly of you to think they are trying to compete with modern general purpose desktops, they are attempting to fill a niche which Amiga helped create and has never quite been filled since their demise despite modern computers being so much "better." I was referring too the X5000 which is PowerISA architecture. A1222 is planned to be around $500 which is not all that expensive, X5000 is on the expensive side. Considering my use of such a computer would be to run various audio software that was designed for much slower single core machines I suspect a dual 2ghz processor with XMOS coprocessor would be quite satisfactory. It would allow me to use some software which does not play well with emulators and would probably be just about ideal for my needs when it comes to a studio computer. I suspect the A1222 project was scrapped due to shutdown fallout, chip shortages, etc but who knows, it may still happen.
  - tialaramex 4y ago
    The Amiga was one of several very popular late 1980s home computers. They all have this same rather vague nostalgic sentiment attached to them by fans, but it's true that none of them have been more preyed upon by crooks than the Amigans over the subsequent years. Nothing is going to "fill that niche" because it's not actually a niche, just your brain playing tricks on you. And the X5000 isn't "in production" in any meaningful sense. Somewhere there may be some boards on a shelf that are technically "new in box", but this is fairly old hardware from an even older design. That P5020 CPU is thirteen years old and whilst its industrial customers presumably used the second core, Amiga software does not. Amiga "developers" periodically claim that they're working very hard on that, all the way back to 2013 you can find very earnest sounding men explaining that they've mostly got it working but it is being tested by a select group under NDA. They're bullshitting, telling Amigans you just need a few more weeks a bit more money means you don't have to admit that you spent every penny and there's nothing to show for it. Maybe a miracle will happen.
    - ofalkaed 4y ago
      Amiga OS does use the second core even if the software does not, just like every modern system. Do you think it just piles every single process onto a single core? I never said the x5000 was in production, I actually said it wasn't. The closest thing to "Amiga Developers" would be Hyperion who took over the OS and has made licensing deals with 5 or 6 different hardware producers, they make no hardware themselves. Over the past decade or so at least a dozen different Amiga systems and motherboards have gone into production and sold well for what it is. Most of the hardware is sold through various online stores with a couple of those producing hardware also selling online, Hyperion only sells software; so who exactly are these evil "Amiga developers" you talk about? Or is it a conspiracy and they are all involved? If you are going to make accusations you should identify the culprit, would you blame Microsoft and everyone who makes or sells computers which run Windows because HP ripped you off?

VyseofArcadia 4y ago

I installed Haiku on an old netbook recently. It ran like a dream, except for kernel panicking every 5 minutes.

waddlesplash 4y ago
That's not normal behavior (these days, anyway!) A lot of users are able to go months without kernel panics, especially on certain kinds of older hardware. Did you report any of these panics?
rebolek 4y ago
I installed Haiku on an old Eee and yes it runs like dream and I haven't experienced single kernel panic yet. I'm thinking about installing it on something "bigger" than Eee as I was really surprised how usable and nice the OS is.

tialaramex 4y ago

> Amiga is still in production, their new computer that is currently in beta testing looks pretty good The Amiga "Tabor" or "A1222" is a very, very silly machine. Because they insist on PowerPC even though that's basically a long dead architecture, the best available CPU for it was the QorIQ P1022 a SOC designed to be inside say a mid-range Ethernet switch a decade ago. In the event they actually ship a product in some sort of volume (say, dozens) before NXP discontinue the processors altogether this would be far worse than a PC or Mac you could have bought in 2015 when it was conceived, and yet also far more expensive, very silly.

ofalkaed 4y ago
It is very very silly of you to think they are trying to compete with modern general purpose desktops, they are attempting to fill a niche which Amiga helped create and has never quite been filled since their demise despite modern computers being so much "better." I was referring too the X5000 which is PowerISA architecture. A1222 is planned to be around $500 which is not all that expensive, X5000 is on the expensive side. Considering my use of such a computer would be to run various audio software that was designed for much slower single core machines I suspect a dual 2ghz processor with XMOS coprocessor would be quite satisfactory. It would allow me to use some software which does not play well with emulators and would probably be just about ideal for my needs when it comes to a studio computer. I suspect the A1222 project was scrapped due to shutdown fallout, chip shortages, etc but who knows, it may still happen.
- tialaramex 4y ago
  The Amiga was one of several very popular late 1980s home computers. They all have this same rather vague nostalgic sentiment attached to them by fans, but it's true that none of them have been more preyed upon by crooks than the Amigans over the subsequent years. Nothing is going to "fill that niche" because it's not actually a niche, just your brain playing tricks on you. And the X5000 isn't "in production" in any meaningful sense. Somewhere there may be some boards on a shelf that are technically "new in box", but this is fairly old hardware from an even older design. That P5020 CPU is thirteen years old and whilst its industrial customers presumably used the second core, Amiga software does not. Amiga "developers" periodically claim that they're working very hard on that, all the way back to 2013 you can find very earnest sounding men explaining that they've mostly got it working but it is being tested by a select group under NDA. They're bullshitting, telling Amigans you just need a few more weeks a bit more money means you don't have to admit that you spent every penny and there's nothing to show for it. Maybe a miracle will happen.
  - ofalkaed 4y ago
    Amiga OS does use the second core even if the software does not, just like every modern system. Do you think it just piles every single process onto a single core? I never said the x5000 was in production, I actually said it wasn't. The closest thing to "Amiga Developers" would be Hyperion who took over the OS and has made licensing deals with 5 or 6 different hardware producers, they make no hardware themselves. Over the past decade or so at least a dozen different Amiga systems and motherboards have gone into production and sold well for what it is. Most of the hardware is sold through various online stores with a couple of those producing hardware also selling online, Hyperion only sells software; so who exactly are these evil "Amiga developers" you talk about? Or is it a conspiracy and they are all involved? If you are going to make accusations you should identify the culprit, would you blame Microsoft and everyone who makes or sells computers which run Windows because HP ripped you off?