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Being 35 this news makes me a scared old man who maybe won't get hired again ;)

by toadi 15y ago

marcc 15y ago
Stay current with your skills and age won't matter.
- ootachi 15y ago
  Wrong. Listen to all these stories. Everyone on this site will end up either unemployed and unable to find work if they don't win the startup lottery or die before reaching 40.
  - bstewartnyc 15y ago
    I'm a 42 year old software developer, and I stay current: SOLR, Hadoop, HBase, Storm, iOS, Clojure, HTML5, etc. Its harder to keep up now (primarily because of less time to study and play with tech) but I still love it. Also, keep studying business (entrepreneurship, startups) and never stop working on communication skills. I get paid well and get job offers all the them. Last but not least, take up running.
dspillett 15y ago
33 myself and it has crossed my mind. My guess based on what I've seen in my little bit of the world is that experience and skillset count more than age but you have to have both, hence I need to modernise my skillset in a few places sooner rather than later.
- jerfelix 15y ago
  I look at it this way. How many years of REAL experience does a highly qualified 22 year old have? If they spent their college years EXTREMELY productively, then maybe 4 or 5. OK, you're 33. The upper limit of re-tooling time required, to be just as up-to-date on the latest technologies is 4-5 years. And all you need to do is be as productive as that 22 year old was during his college years! In reality. you could do it in 6 months of focused, unemployed time. Or a year of evening work, while you remain employed.
tony_vivaldi 15y ago
I was laid off a year ago at age 37 and have not been able to get a job since, or even get many interviews. I think at this point I've applied to 77 jobs, heard back from 11, and have actually been phone screened by 5. Most of my experience is in relatively "hot" technology at startups... I have three Rails sites I can point to and worked on an iPhone app with 3 million users, with a node.js and Redis backend. I have a github account. I've solved programming challenges from Facebook, interview street, spotify, etc. I don't think I'm a total slouch, and I've worked with guys FAR worse than I am. It's pretty painful to think about some of the duds that are still employed while I can't even get an interview. People prescribe keeping skills relevant, but focusing on latest technologies can be a mistake. If I had more experience with Microsoft tech or J2EE I could probably pick up a boring job doing enterprise stuff somewhere in the midwest. I thought I could always just pick up a job through my network, but a lot of guys my age who were friends at other companies are sort of checked out and are not in a position to hire. The younger guys I met I think just don't want to pull me in because they have plenty of younger friends they could hire first. A lot of tech hiring, especially at the startup level, is hiring guys that you want to be bros with. Generally, you aren't bros with guys 10 or 15 years older than you are. I never thought I'd be one of the guys in the articles like this, so I'm not sure exactly what to do. I've been working on iPhone apps in my spare time, but at some point I am going to run out of money. It can get very depressing and does quite a number on one's mental health. You feel like you can't socialize because you should be looking for work, and not spending money. Your extended family and friends kind of abandon you because they think something must be wrong with you (maybe there is?). This anxiety and isolation makes it pretty hard to focus and I've been considering trying anti-depressant medications, just so I can finish off my apps. However, I have diminished confidence at this point that having finished iPhone apps will get me any money, or another job. I often feel like I should just stop wasting my time and try to get some sort of dangerous but high paying labor job, like an oil roughneck. Or maybe just move to some cheap developing nation and become some sort of ex-pat weirdo guy? Another aspect of this, is that it seems kind of weird to even get a job stocking shelves at target, or something. Would they even hire me? Would it be worth it to make the 1400 a month? I now have a lot of sympathy for the "99%" type people. Those Seth Godin and Friedman pieces about the new economy being no place for average workers are pretty much correct. I wouldn't say I'm a C player but I'd say I'm around a B+. Unfortunately, B+ and 35 or above computer programmer doesn't seem to cut it. P.S. if anyone has any advice it would be pretty helpful to me and maybe others

Being 35 this news makes me a scared old man who maybe won't get hired again ;)

by toadi 15y ago

Being 35 this news makes me a scared old man who maybe won't get hired again ;)

marcc 15y ago

Stay current with your skills and age won't matter.

ootachi 15y ago
Wrong. Listen to all these stories. Everyone on this site will end up either unemployed and unable to find work if they don't win the startup lottery or die before reaching 40.
- bstewartnyc 15y ago
  I'm a 42 year old software developer, and I stay current: SOLR, Hadoop, HBase, Storm, iOS, Clojure, HTML5, etc. Its harder to keep up now (primarily because of less time to study and play with tech) but I still love it. Also, keep studying business (entrepreneurship, startups) and never stop working on communication skills. I get paid well and get job offers all the them. Last but not least, take up running.

dspillett 15y ago

33 myself and it has crossed my mind. My guess based on what I've seen in my little bit of the world is that experience and skillset count more than age but you have to have both, hence I need to modernise my skillset in a few places sooner rather than later.

jerfelix 15y ago
I look at it this way. How many years of REAL experience does a highly qualified 22 year old have? If they spent their college years EXTREMELY productively, then maybe 4 or 5. OK, you're 33. The upper limit of re-tooling time required, to be just as up-to-date on the latest technologies is 4-5 years. And all you need to do is be as productive as that 22 year old was during his college years! In reality. you could do it in 6 months of focused, unemployed time. Or a year of evening work, while you remain employed.

tony_vivaldi 15y ago

I was laid off a year ago at age 37 and have not been able to get a job since, or even get many interviews. I think at this point I've applied to 77 jobs, heard back from 11, and have actually been phone screened by 5. Most of my experience is in relatively "hot" technology at startups... I have three Rails sites I can point to and worked on an iPhone app with 3 million users, with a node.js and Redis backend. I have a github account. I've solved programming challenges from Facebook, interview street, spotify, etc. I don't think I'm a total slouch, and I've worked with guys FAR worse than I am. It's pretty painful to think about some of the duds that are still employed while I can't even get an interview. People prescribe keeping skills relevant, but focusing on latest technologies can be a mistake. If I had more experience with Microsoft tech or J2EE I could probably pick up a boring job doing enterprise stuff somewhere in the midwest. I thought I could always just pick up a job through my network, but a lot of guys my age who were friends at other companies are sort of checked out and are not in a position to hire. The younger guys I met I think just don't want to pull me in because they have plenty of younger friends they could hire first. A lot of tech hiring, especially at the startup level, is hiring guys that you want to be bros with. Generally, you aren't bros with guys 10 or 15 years older than you are. I never thought I'd be one of the guys in the articles like this, so I'm not sure exactly what to do. I've been working on iPhone apps in my spare time, but at some point I am going to run out of money. It can get very depressing and does quite a number on one's mental health. You feel like you can't socialize because you should be looking for work, and not spending money. Your extended family and friends kind of abandon you because they think something must be wrong with you (maybe there is?). This anxiety and isolation makes it pretty hard to focus and I've been considering trying anti-depressant medications, just so I can finish off my apps. However, I have diminished confidence at this point that having finished iPhone apps will get me any money, or another job. I often feel like I should just stop wasting my time and try to get some sort of dangerous but high paying labor job, like an oil roughneck. Or maybe just move to some cheap developing nation and become some sort of ex-pat weirdo guy? Another aspect of this, is that it seems kind of weird to even get a job stocking shelves at target, or something. Would they even hire me? Would it be worth it to make the 1400 a month? I now have a lot of sympathy for the "99%" type people. Those Seth Godin and Friedman pieces about the new economy being no place for average workers are pretty much correct. I wouldn't say I'm a C player but I'd say I'm around a B+. Unfortunately, B+ and 35 or above computer programmer doesn't seem to cut it. P.S. if anyone has any advice it would be pretty helpful to me and maybe others