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Does anyone have any information about how this looks in other countries? Is this an American issue or worldwide?

jeffrallen 4y ago
Anecdotally, Switzerland's kids are doing ok, but I haven't checked the public health stats. One thing that helps is having a stable future ready for them to inherit. They can see the investments our generation is making for them (windmills, car chargers, trains), they have guaranteed education and apprenticeship to bring them into adulthood and independence, and they have a social safety net ready to catch them (I suspect they don't really understand the value of that though). My point is, it is easy to say "you've got a bright future" and get them to believe it when the entire society is actually organized around making it actually true.
dragoncrab 4y ago
The article claims this is a common problem in the developed countries, not just in the USA.
bigbacaloa 4y ago
It varies tremendously by country and within subpopulations.
defrost 4y ago
Suicide in Australia: 1907 - present https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/deaths-by-suicide-in-australia/suicide-deaths-over-time https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/de... Male rate consistantly ~ > 4x female rate (particularly so pre WWII) - save for WWII years. Youth suicide in Australia: 2001 - present (ungendered) https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/populations-age-groups/suicide-among-young-people https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/po... Ages 18-24 are peak ages for suicide, ~ 2x rate @15-17 Indigenous suicide in Australia: 2001 - present https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/populations-age-groups/suicide-indigenous-australians https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/po... approx 1.5-2.5x non-indigenous. There's more to be gleaned from the actual full M&M tables, these are just the web tables available re: suicide. NOTE WELL!! In AU, UK, USofA etc reporting customs have changed with respect to cause of death and suicide over the years, some dips and peaks may be more related to the culture of reporting rather than rates of actual suicide.

Anecdotally, Switzerland's kids are doing ok, but I haven't checked the public health stats. One thing that helps is having a stable future ready for them to inherit. They can see the investments our generation is making for them (windmills, car chargers, trains), they have guaranteed education and apprenticeship to bring them into adulthood and independence, and they have a social safety net ready to catch them (I suspect they don't really understand the value of that though). My point is, it is easy to say "you've got a bright future" and get them to believe it when the entire society is actually organized around making it actually true.

dragoncrab 4y ago

The article claims this is a common problem in the developed countries, not just in the USA.

bigbacaloa 4y ago

It varies tremendously by country and within subpopulations.

defrost 4y ago

Suicide in Australia: 1907 - present https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/deaths-by-suicide-in-australia/suicide-deaths-over-time https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/de... Male rate consistantly ~ > 4x female rate (particularly so pre WWII) - save for WWII years. Youth suicide in Australia: 2001 - present (ungendered) https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/populations-age-groups/suicide-among-young-people https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/po... Ages 18-24 are peak ages for suicide, ~ 2x rate @15-17 Indigenous suicide in Australia: 2001 - present https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/populations-age-groups/suicide-indigenous-australians https://www.aihw.gov.au/suicide-self-harm-monitoring/data/po... approx 1.5-2.5x non-indigenous. There's more to be gleaned from the actual full M&M tables, these are just the web tables available re: suicide. NOTE WELL!! In AU, UK, USofA etc reporting customs have changed with respect to cause of death and suicide over the years, some dips and peaks may be more related to the culture of reporting rather than rates of actual suicide.