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It allows you to lock it with a pin. I don't want to carry keys.

by judge2020 4y ago

recursivequine 4y ago
Exactly, it's super useful & frictionless.
NotYourLawyer 4y ago
Fine, then have a lock that's accessible electronically. The usual case of just opening the glove compartment when it's not locked can still just be a physical latch.
afavour 4y ago
It’s entirely possible to do both.
djha-skin 4y ago
There are so many good reasons to carry keys. Why carry a yubikey, or a license for that matter? Because good security is about what you have, not just what you know. It's about authentication. In the spirit of the present article, mechanical locks (especially for anything car related) are better. You can't hack into them. If you force or break them, you are forced to leave physical evidence behind that you did so. Not so for a Bluetooth or WiFi hack. This is why I will not enable my smart garage door opener. I don't even have pay by phone, because they offer an attack vector via NFC directly to my bank account. I carry credit cards instead. Sure, carrying all those pieces of metal is annoying. I got a KeySmart to help mitigate this. I carry my car key in my wallet with my cards. It's worth it, and there are ways around the costs.
wongarsu 4y ago
Then put a physical button (with deep travel) on the glove compartment. If it isn't pin-protected it works exactly as a physical latch would, just with an extra redirection through some microcontroller. When you enable the pin lock, pressing the button opens the pin input on the screen.
- NotYourLawyer 4y ago
  Please go work for Tesla, because the design you just came up with on the fly is 100x better than theirs.
  - recursivequine 4y ago
    That sounds awful. My hand has to travel to the glovebox, find a button, back to the touch screen, then back to the box. There's no eloquence. I think the tesla glove box is easier for a driver to open than a manual one. Two rapid taps & it's waiting for you
    - NotYourLawyer 4y ago
      Most people leave the glove box unlocked most of the time. Tesla optimized for the rare case.
OOPMan 4y ago
Right, because the person that broke into your car is not going to just going to rip it open with a crowbar?
registeredcorn 4y ago
Why not make it a lock that doesn't require electricity? For example: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/combination-number-lock-metallic-code-mechanism-d-illustration-126833170.jpg https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/combination-number-lock-meta...

It allows you to lock it with a pin. I don't want to carry keys.

Exactly, it's super useful & frictionless.

Fine, then have a lock that's accessible electronically. The usual case of just opening the glove compartment when it's not locked can still just be a physical latch.

afavour 4y ago

It’s entirely possible to do both.

djha-skin 4y ago

There are so many good reasons to carry keys. Why carry a yubikey, or a license for that matter? Because good security is about what you have, not just what you know. It's about authentication. In the spirit of the present article, mechanical locks (especially for anything car related) are better. You can't hack into them. If you force or break them, you are forced to leave physical evidence behind that you did so. Not so for a Bluetooth or WiFi hack. This is why I will not enable my smart garage door opener. I don't even have pay by phone, because they offer an attack vector via NFC directly to my bank account. I carry credit cards instead. Sure, carrying all those pieces of metal is annoying. I got a KeySmart to help mitigate this. I carry my car key in my wallet with my cards. It's worth it, and there are ways around the costs.

wongarsu 4y ago

Then put a physical button (with deep travel) on the glove compartment. If it isn't pin-protected it works exactly as a physical latch would, just with an extra redirection through some microcontroller. When you enable the pin lock, pressing the button opens the pin input on the screen.

NotYourLawyer 4y ago
Please go work for Tesla, because the design you just came up with on the fly is 100x better than theirs.
- recursivequine 4y ago
  That sounds awful. My hand has to travel to the glovebox, find a button, back to the touch screen, then back to the box. There's no eloquence. I think the tesla glove box is easier for a driver to open than a manual one. Two rapid taps & it's waiting for you
  - NotYourLawyer 4y ago
    Most people leave the glove box unlocked most of the time. Tesla optimized for the rare case.

OOPMan 4y ago

Right, because the person that broke into your car is not going to just going to rip it open with a crowbar?

registeredcorn 4y ago

Why not make it a lock that doesn't require electricity? For example: https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/combination-number-lock-metallic-code-mechanism-d-illustration-126833170.jpg https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/b/combination-number-lock-meta...