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Can you elaborate on what you found wrong with the above comment?

dang 4y ago
Reflexive "Google will just shut it down" reactions were already a cliché 10 years ago. It's been tedious for a long time, and therefore is not driven by curiosity, and curiosity is what we're optimizing for. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... Google really does shut things down—I know! But for a good HN comment, it's not enough to say something true—one should say something true that hasn't been repeated a thousand times already. --- How'd I do? Apparently I'm being recorded.
- eyelidlessness 4y ago
  I have no idea about you being recorded, but I have to admit I’m sincerely not understanding the moderation still. Is it really not enough to say something true? That saying something true which has been true for 10 years warrants moderation? That’s surprising, and doesn’t correspond to anything I’m aware of in the posting guidelines.
  - ilt 4y ago
    Larger point of this is that these cliches do not contribute to healthier discussions but result in more of the same circlejerk, and hence they end up contaminating the whole thread with low quality drivel, drowning actual good quality comments and increasing the workload of moderators to no end.
  - dang 4y ago
    When something has been repeated often enough, it becomes tedious and boring. That makes it off topic for HN. People repeat these things anyway, but for reasons other than curiosity. Since curiosity is what we're optimizing for, we want to avoid that. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20repetition%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... If that still doesn't make sense, consider this thought experiment: imagine a comment saying something true, and then another saying the exact same thing, and then another saying that thing, and another... now extend the sequence arbitrarily. At some point it becomes annoying and offtopic, no? Another way of looking at it is this: when you hear a thing that you haven't heard before, that's what gratifies curiosity. In other words, diffs are what's interesting. Clichés have no "diff value" because everybody's already heard them many times. That's what makes them cliché.

dang 4y ago

Reflexive "Google will just shut it down" reactions were already a cliché 10 years ago. It's been tedious for a long time, and therefore is not driven by curiosity, and curiosity is what we're optimizing for. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor... Google really does shut things down—I know! But for a good HN comment, it's not enough to say something true—one should say something true that hasn't been repeated a thousand times already. --- How'd I do? Apparently I'm being recorded.

eyelidlessness 4y ago
I have no idea about you being recorded, but I have to admit I’m sincerely not understanding the moderation still. Is it really not enough to say something true? That saying something true which has been true for 10 years warrants moderation? That’s surprising, and doesn’t correspond to anything I’m aware of in the posting guidelines.
- ilt 4y ago
  Larger point of this is that these cliches do not contribute to healthier discussions but result in more of the same circlejerk, and hence they end up contaminating the whole thread with low quality drivel, drowning actual good quality comments and increasing the workload of moderators to no end.
- dang 4y ago
  When something has been repeated often enough, it becomes tedious and boring. That makes it off topic for HN. People repeat these things anyway, but for reasons other than curiosity. Since curiosity is what we're optimizing for, we want to avoid that. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20repetition%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=false&so... If that still doesn't make sense, consider this thought experiment: imagine a comment saying something true, and then another saying the exact same thing, and then another saying that thing, and another... now extend the sequence arbitrarily. At some point it becomes annoying and offtopic, no? Another way of looking at it is this: when you hear a thing that you haven't heard before, that's what gratifies curiosity. In other words, diffs are what's interesting. Clichés have no "diff value" because everybody's already heard them many times. That's what makes them cliché.