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As a counter to all the replies, I have owned nothing but Hyundai and Kia since high school, and my family has owned several Kia and Hyundai vehicles. It would
by bmitc 4y ago
As a counter to all the replies, I have owned nothing but Hyundai and Kia since high school, and my family has owned several Kia and Hyundai vehicles. It would take something very major for me to consider another brand.
Their warranties are outstanding and long. My Kia engine was part of a recall, had an issue, but was then replaced out of warranty for free in less than a week during 2020. The engine now has a lifetime warranty. All of their warranty repairs, for small things, were done without hassle.
When we took a look at buying another car a few years ago, Kia and Hyundai were by far the best quality car out of everyone, including Honda. I think people to still shit on Kia and Hyundai because the names aren't Honda or Toyota. They have their issues, but in my experience, the warranty and recalls they did covered everything at no cost. And at this point, my Kia is an 8 year old model which was at the tail end of its model design even then.
I have zero concern about my Kia's reliability. I even drove my much older Hyundai well over 100,000 miles with hardly any maintenance before trading it in.
- GordonS 4y agoI'd like to buy Kia or Hyundai, but personally I find the interiors both look and feel "cheap", even on the high-end models like the Kia Stinger. Interiors from BMW, Mercedes, Audi and Volvo look and feel so much more luxurious.
- eindiran 4y agoI was in the same boat until my car was stolen. If you haven't heard of it, look up the Kia Boys, though the same rules apply to Hyundais. If you do manage to get the car back, you find yourself much more interested in car anti-theft measures, and will then discover that there are very limited options for parts due to the epidemic of them being stolen (66% of cars stolen in 2021 in Milwaukee, the center of the epidemic were Kia/Hyundai). And there is no indication that the company will be of any help going forward. The only real option is to not buy pre-2021 Hyundais/Kias.
- TheSpiceIsLife 4y agoI have a hand-screw isolator on the battery of my my VW T5, like this https://images.app.goo.gl/d5GXhBocg3gEjhbZA https://images.app.goo.gl/d5GXhBocg3gEjhbZA I take the green screw part with me if I have any concerns, and sometimes even if it's parked in it's usual place at home. I figure if a their tries to start the vehicle and it doesn't even turn on, they're likely to move to the next vehicle rather than muck about trying to troubleshoot mine. It's low tech, and non-obvious.
- eindiran 4y agoYou are now the second person to recommend me an idea in that vein; I have just been using a steering wheel lock since I can't actually get an immobilizer rn. So I think I will actually materialize on your idea. Appreciate the comment.
- TheSpiceIsLife 4y agoOne step further I've thought of would be to buy two and remove the brass threaded contactor from one of the green hand screws and replace it with a nylon part so you could screw the dummy unit in to make it appear as though the unit is complete, thereby potential throwing off a savey would-be their who is familiar with the the trick of removing the contractor.
- smaudet 4y agoHmm another thought - tie the gas pedal to the steering wheel with a steel chain/lock. Sure, they can cut your chain with bolt cutters, but that's not exactly inconspicuous, and it encourages would be theives towards easier marks. Probably cheaper than a wheel lock, too.
- nomel 4y agoI used to pull the accessories fuse, so it wouldn’t start.
- jimt1234 4y agoMy older Nissan Frontier has a fuse for the fuel injection. I pull that out if I ever park any place sketchy.
- _rs 4y agoThe way your comment reads is that 2022 and newer models are safe. Did something change in 2021?
- reportingsjr 4y agoA number of things including some insurance companies refusing to insure kia and hyundais. People wont buy your cars if they can't use them!
- sphars 4y agoThe stolen cars were model years less than 2022 and were trims that needed a key to start the vehicle. Models that's used pushed button starts were unaffected. You can see all the models affected and rollout of software to address it here: https://hyundaiantitheft.com/ https://hyundaiantitheft.com/
- NoZebra120vClip 4y agoShouldn't there be, like, a glut of parts on the gray market if they are stolen so often? They don't end up in chop-shops?
- jjkmk 4y agoThey steal them drive them around recklessly for a few hours, the crash into a light pole. Its not professional criminals stealing these cars, its 13 year old kids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTrLyqL_nw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbTrLyqL_nw
- NoZebra120vClip 4y agoYeah, but a crashed auto is an instant organ donor of myriad parts. What happens to the crashed cars?
- MrBuddyCasino 4y ago"Kia Boys", ok. Another euphemism to ad to the dictionary.
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- jjkmk 4y agoSame deal, my Hyundai was stolen 3 times from Sept 2021 to October 2022 when I finally sold it. Was a huge headache.
- kQq9oHeAz6wLLS 4y ago3 times in a year? I'd be looking to move far, far away.
- josteink 4y agoYeah. That’s not a car-problem. That’s living in a lawless neighbourhood kind of problem. Move somewhere safe. Where cars don’t get stolen. You’ll probably find most other crime statistics beneficial too there.
- bmitc 4y agoIt is unfortunate for sure, but it doesn't affect fob only / pushbutton start cars. Kia and Hyundai have rectified the issue on newer models though and are at least giving away free wheel locks in certain areas, or so I've read.
- metamet 4y agoI've heard reports that the newer models are still broken into at higher rates, despite thieves failing to steal it.
- cronix 4y agoAnother issue with some models of Kia and Hyundai is some insurance companies are now refusing to insure them due to how easy they are to steal. Imagine buying a car and calling up your insurance company to add it to your policy and...nope. I've never heard of that before. https://www.autoblog.com/2023/02/09/hyundai-kia-models-state-farm-denied-insurance-policies/ https://www.autoblog.com/2023/02/09/hyundai-kia-models-state...
- beAbU 4y agoThis is an international problem, whith every location having a model/brand that's preferred by the thieves. Market forces and all that. In South Africa, the best car security you can have by far is to simply park next to a VW Polo/Golf. The VW will _always_ be stolen first. Don't forget to set a reminder to go out at some point, so that you can move your car and park it next to another VW, as the first one would be stolen by then. A close second are Toyota Hilux and Fortuner. All these cars are super popular, both to own and steal. Result is insurance premiums that can be double normal rates, especially if you fall in the "young and reckless" demographic.
- esalman 4y agoI rented a Sonata once and drove it 3500 miles without issues. But since then my impression of Hyundai has deteriorated. Had another die on me while driving on I-85 in a rush hour Atlanta. It was scary. Then all these reports of engine fires and theft because of lack of immobilizers.
- RajT88 4y agoSo - people shit on Kia, because they remember what it was like before Hyundai owned it. My sister bought a Kia around 2000. It was garbage. You have to go a ways farther back, but once upon a time Hyundai wasn't very good either. At some point (I guess in the 90's?) people started talking about how Hyundai had caught up to Toyota and Honda, and Ford and Dodge needed to do the same. I've driven many Kia rentals the past ~15 years, and they are awesome. Even remembering all of what I wrote above, I was surprised at times at how premium the fit and finish was, and how powerful and smooth the ride was.
- karlshea 4y agoI had a 2006 Kia Spectra and learned to drive manual with it. Lasted for 10 years until it got rusty enough from winter salt that I wanted something else. Other than oil changes and front struts it was trouble-free.
- yurishimo 4y agoYea, in the past decade or so, both Kia and Hyundai have stepped up their game to compete with Honda and Toyota. Great warranties, easy to work on, etc etc. I'm curious what the world will look like in another 20 years. Will Hyundai's get more expensive than Toyota? Will Honda bring prices down to better compete? Or will some Chinese startup roll in and attempt the same playbook as the previous brands? I any case, I think it's a net positive for consumers.
- xedrac 4y agoI own two Hyundai (2007 Entourage, 2015 Sonata), and a 2022 Honda Odyssey. My initial impression of the Honda is far better than it was for my Hyundais. We'll see how it progresses over time, but as of now, I don't plan to buy Hyundai again. The only thing I hate about my Honda is I can't turn default-to-off that stupid setting that kills the engine and restarts it automatically whenever you stop the vehicle at a light or stop sign.
- zimbu668 4y agoI don’t have one myself, but every time I hear the engine restart at a stop sign I’m tempted https://www.idlestopper.com/product/idlestopper/1 https://www.idlestopper.com/product/idlestopper/1
- TedDoesntTalk 4y agoYou’re comparing cars that are a generation or two apart. Not really a fair comparison.
- aaronbrethorst 4y agoI leased a Kia Niro EV last year (EV FOMO made me unwilling to commit to a car right now, plus the used car market was obscene). I’ve been generally delighted with it, excluding the stupid Bluetooth auto connect nonsense.