Well, shoot. This one hurts. One of my favorite no-nonsense places to get info or just browse. And smartphone cameras are getting good but they're not remotely

Well, shoot. This one hurts. One of my favorite no-nonsense places to get info or just browse. And smartphone cameras are getting good but they're not remotely close to real cameras. Had a 13 max until my new/much better s23 ultra and the best shots on either absolutely pale compared to my Lumix G3, now quite long in the tooth.