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It's highly amusing to watch java folks frame this as the rest of the world not "keeping up" when it's pretty obvious it's the rest of the world not caring enou
by DannyBee 4y ago
It's highly amusing to watch java folks frame this as the rest of the world not "keeping up" when it's pretty obvious it's the rest of the world not caring enough to do anything about it.
I wonder how long it will be before they realize they are in the slow, sad, decline regardless of how many features get added.
- xyzzy4747 4y agoI think this is true for young companies - for example every crypto startup I’ve interacted with makes their backend in either Node.js, Golang, or Rust. There is quite a lot of legacy software that uses Java though.
- DannyBee 4y agoSure, no doubt there. Where i work has hundreds of millions of lines of java code, and i was the director responsible for the java team for years ;) But: 1. The enterprise users aren't spending their time chasing java versions, and probably already gave up and have a support contract with Azul or someone, or just stick with an unsupported versions. This is why all the cloud vendors, for example, either have such deals, or provide their own guarantee of support. So they almost certainly do not care about Java 20 anytime soon unless they are in the weird category of "serious java shop" (rather than legacy java shop), which is quickly shrinking. That is not a big enough class that people will "try to keep up" to frame it in the java-centric version used by GP. 2. The non-enterprise users are also a shrinking base.