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> Does it show strong potential after so little time? (Checks watch) Uh... Intel has been working on graphics for over twenty-five years. https://en.wikipedia.

> Does it show strong potential after so little time? (Checks watch) Uh... Intel has been working on graphics for over twenty-five years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_graphics_processing_units https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_graphics_process... It seems like every 5 years, they say, "This is it, we're gonna be competitive this time," and ... they never are. Not even close.

ChuckNorris89 4y ago
>Intel has been working on graphics for over twenty-five years Yeah but integrated graphics and dedicated desktop/server class GPUs for graphics, multimedia and general compute are two completely different beasts in terms of HW and SW. Qualcomm, ARM, Imagination also have been making GPU IPs since forever, but I doubt any of them can jump in the ring with Nvidia and AMD. Do you think they wouldn't like a piece of that lucrative market share? But they know that dislodging the Nvidia-AMD duopoly so late in the game is an exercise in futility.
- KennyBlanken 4y ago
  They're not "completely different beasts", and one area Intel fell flat on their faces with was drivers. A company that has been making GPU drivers for so long shouldn't be releasing the utter dumpster fire that was their discreet GPU drivers. Reviewers found features were missing, didn't work, or were horribly unreliable.
  - userbinator 4y ago
    Their integrated GPU drivers weren't any better throughout; I've had to RE some in the past and I could imagine what their source looked like to generate some of the monstrosities I saw. They seriously should've just released the specifications for their GPUs and let the community write the drivers.
bee_rider 4y ago
If you want to count iGPUs, Intel has been trouncing Nvidia and AMD in terms of units sold for most of those 25 years.
mhh__ 4y ago
Wasn't the last time they went anywhere near this ~14 years ago?
- JonChesterfield 4y ago
  Nope, larrabee was more recent than that, and it stumbled along as xeon phi for a bit too. They've been abjectly failing to deliver Aurora for about a decade too.
  - mhh__ 4y ago
    Larrabee was released in 2010, so not massively far off Xeon Phi is also not a GPU product, surely

ChuckNorris89 4y ago

>Intel has been working on graphics for over twenty-five years Yeah but integrated graphics and dedicated desktop/server class GPUs for graphics, multimedia and general compute are two completely different beasts in terms of HW and SW. Qualcomm, ARM, Imagination also have been making GPU IPs since forever, but I doubt any of them can jump in the ring with Nvidia and AMD. Do you think they wouldn't like a piece of that lucrative market share? But they know that dislodging the Nvidia-AMD duopoly so late in the game is an exercise in futility.

KennyBlanken 4y ago
They're not "completely different beasts", and one area Intel fell flat on their faces with was drivers. A company that has been making GPU drivers for so long shouldn't be releasing the utter dumpster fire that was their discreet GPU drivers. Reviewers found features were missing, didn't work, or were horribly unreliable.
- userbinator 4y ago
  Their integrated GPU drivers weren't any better throughout; I've had to RE some in the past and I could imagine what their source looked like to generate some of the monstrosities I saw. They seriously should've just released the specifications for their GPUs and let the community write the drivers.

bee_rider 4y ago

If you want to count iGPUs, Intel has been trouncing Nvidia and AMD in terms of units sold for most of those 25 years.

mhh__ 4y ago

Wasn't the last time they went anywhere near this ~14 years ago?

JonChesterfield 4y ago
Nope, larrabee was more recent than that, and it stumbled along as xeon phi for a bit too. They've been abjectly failing to deliver Aurora for about a decade too.
- mhh__ 4y ago
  Larrabee was released in 2010, so not massively far off Xeon Phi is also not a GPU product, surely