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Why? Stallman has been an influential figure in open source software for decades, and this post seems to discuss topics many HNers care about.

dangwhy 4y ago
i think he was cancelled at some point. don't remember any details though.
- 908B64B197 4y ago
  Someone published some anonymous blog post to get him cancelled.
  - alex_lav 4y ago
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    - knodi123 4y ago
      Or you can consult some later words, where he said he was wrong, he regrets his statement, it was harmful, and he no longer condones it.
ftxbro 4y ago
He said some bad stuff and got cancelled on twitter and fired from his own company.
- knodi123 4y ago
  The stuff that got him cancelled was grossly and willfully misinterpreted by malicious journalists.
alex_lav 4y ago
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- ergonaught 4y ago
  Prove that RMS supports sexual intercourse with prepubescent children or stop breaking the law slandering the man.
  - alex_lav 4y ago
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    - margalabargala 4y ago
      What you linked to: > Many years after posting this note, I had conversations with people who had been sexually abused as children and had suffered harmful effects. These conversations eventually convinced me that the practice is harmful and adults should not do it. The position you claim he holds, is the opposite of the opinion he holds. Do you believe that people should be judged based on the worst opinion they have ever held in their past, or based on the opinions they hold now?
      - alex_lav 4y ago
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        margalabargala 4y ago
        So to be clear: 1) You believe people should be judged based on the opinions they hold now rather than their past opinions. 2) You think that the person's current opinion is different than they say it is, and are judging them based on what you imagine their true opinion to be, rather than what they say it is. Do you have specific basis for thinking he is lying? Stallman tends very much to voice his true opinion regardless of how it may be received, so if he claims to have changed his thinking I would tend to believe it unless there's an actual reason to think otherwise.
Toutouxc 4y ago
You can find some 100 % Stallmanesque, extremely pedantic and tone-deaf quotes from him on pedophilia and rape. Some people are understanding, some are not.
- alex_lav 4y ago
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- unity1001 4y ago
  Therefore, his contributions in the field of Open Source and software freedom are null and void, is it. Because, everyone has to be a prophet who we can take as a 'role model'. ... This obsession with making Jesuses out of everyone to follow as 'role models' in the US is really alien to those of us who live elsewhere in the world. Its amazing how you people did not 'cancel' literally every. single. prominent figure in near and distant history. All of them had something that would require canceling at this very moment - Washington had dentures made of slaves' teeth, Edison stole inventions and electrocuted elephants, Schweitzer believed that black people were inferior and so on. ... In this particular topic, what is defined as 'pedophilia' isnt even clear: Is it prepubescent children? Or is it a 16 year old sleeping with an 18 year old? Even as 16 is a legal age for marrying and joining the military and dying in almost everywhere around the world, including various European countries? Or are 25 year olds still 'children' like how some lunatics are trying to popularize?
  - ryandrake 4y ago
    People seem to have major difficulty separating the person from the message. Look at the current HN "Nuclear Power movie" thread. Most of the comments have devolved into a debate about whether Oliver Stone is a good person or not, totally irrelevant. Any time a prominent figure is mentioned here, there's always someone who crawls out of the woodwork to comb back through everything the figure wrote just so he can post "bbbbbbut look! On February 12, 2004, he said a racist thing, so obviously nothing else he has said in his entire life should be listened to!"
    - 4y ago
grapesurgeon 4y ago
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dangwhy 4y ago

i think he was cancelled at some point. don't remember any details though.

908B64B197 4y ago
Someone published some anonymous blog post to get him cancelled.
- alex_lav 4y ago
  [flagged]
  - knodi123 4y ago
    Or you can consult some later words, where he said he was wrong, he regrets his statement, it was harmful, and he no longer condones it.

ftxbro 4y ago

He said some bad stuff and got cancelled on twitter and fired from his own company.

knodi123 4y ago
The stuff that got him cancelled was grossly and willfully misinterpreted by malicious journalists.

alex_lav 4y ago

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ergonaught 4y ago
Prove that RMS supports sexual intercourse with prepubescent children or stop breaking the law slandering the man.
- alex_lav 4y ago
  [flagged]
  - margalabargala 4y ago
    What you linked to: > Many years after posting this note, I had conversations with people who had been sexually abused as children and had suffered harmful effects. These conversations eventually convinced me that the practice is harmful and adults should not do it. The position you claim he holds, is the opposite of the opinion he holds. Do you believe that people should be judged based on the worst opinion they have ever held in their past, or based on the opinions they hold now?
    - alex_lav 4y ago
      [flagged]
      - margalabargala 4y ago
        So to be clear: 1) You believe people should be judged based on the opinions they hold now rather than their past opinions. 2) You think that the person's current opinion is different than they say it is, and are judging them based on what you imagine their true opinion to be, rather than what they say it is. Do you have specific basis for thinking he is lying? Stallman tends very much to voice his true opinion regardless of how it may be received, so if he claims to have changed his thinking I would tend to believe it unless there's an actual reason to think otherwise.

Toutouxc 4y ago

You can find some 100 % Stallmanesque, extremely pedantic and tone-deaf quotes from him on pedophilia and rape. Some people are understanding, some are not.

alex_lav 4y ago
[flagged]
unity1001 4y ago
Therefore, his contributions in the field of Open Source and software freedom are null and void, is it. Because, everyone has to be a prophet who we can take as a 'role model'. ... This obsession with making Jesuses out of everyone to follow as 'role models' in the US is really alien to those of us who live elsewhere in the world. Its amazing how you people did not 'cancel' literally every. single. prominent figure in near and distant history. All of them had something that would require canceling at this very moment - Washington had dentures made of slaves' teeth, Edison stole inventions and electrocuted elephants, Schweitzer believed that black people were inferior and so on. ... In this particular topic, what is defined as 'pedophilia' isnt even clear: Is it prepubescent children? Or is it a 16 year old sleeping with an 18 year old? Even as 16 is a legal age for marrying and joining the military and dying in almost everywhere around the world, including various European countries? Or are 25 year olds still 'children' like how some lunatics are trying to popularize?
- ryandrake 4y ago
  People seem to have major difficulty separating the person from the message. Look at the current HN "Nuclear Power movie" thread. Most of the comments have devolved into a debate about whether Oliver Stone is a good person or not, totally irrelevant. Any time a prominent figure is mentioned here, there's always someone who crawls out of the woodwork to comb back through everything the figure wrote just so he can post "bbbbbbut look! On February 12, 2004, he said a racist thing, so obviously nothing else he has said in his entire life should be listened to!"
  - 4y ago

grapesurgeon 4y ago

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