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It’s unfortunate how harshly this comment is worded - the video linked provides a level-headed and informative speech given at a UK Parliament meeting that is a

by tr3ntg 4y ago

It’s unfortunate how harshly this comment is worded - the video linked provides a level-headed and informative speech given at a UK Parliament meeting that is a good summary of vaccination outcomes based on government data. I’ve struggled to find unbiased summaries such as this, so it’s an appreciated link.

notahacker 4y ago
I'm not sure I'd apply the adjectives "level headed and informative" to Andrew Bridgen MP, the crank most recently found tweeting that COVID was invented by the US DoD in Fort Detrick and an unnamed facility in Canada"...
- vfclists 4y ago
  Ad hominems, the mark of the dogdy debater without counterarguments and facts who who appeals to the intellectually challenged. The speech said nothing about the DoD, Fort Detrick or Canada. He quoted statistics from the UK Government about the efficacy or lack of efficacy of the vaccine. It is also a matter of public record that the US DoD and the NIH funded the EcoHealth Alliance who channelled funds to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for Gain of Function research on the coronavirus. A lot of the coronavirus GoF research was also done by Dr Ralph Baric at Chapel Hill University and guess who funded that as well? Irregardless of how the Covid outbreak occurred if you have some points to make about the content of Andrew Bridgen's speech lets hear them. They are about the efficacy or lack thereof of the vaccines and their side effects and are not about the origin of the Sars Cov 2 virus. For anyone reading this comment, I would advise you to listen to the speech rather than wasting time on snide HN commenters who have no meaningful facts to contribute.
  - notahacker 4y ago
    > Ad hominems, the mark of the dogdy debater without counterarguments and facts who who appeals to the intellectually challenged. QED. HNers are of course, free to make up their own minds whether someone who suggests that Fort Detrick and a facility in Canada created COVID and refers to it as a "viral bioweapon" is a "level headed" commentator on the issue likely to be offering accurate interpretations of government statistics well worth taking the time to listen to. And indeed on the subject of your original claim about whether politicians feared the implications of hearing a fearless utterer of such irrefutable truths or just didn't want to dignify someone who has rapidly descended into the political equivalent of Alex Jones with an audience.
    - vfclists 4y ago
      For those interested in Andrew Bridgen's speech here is the link again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSHD_n3Lyg&t=390s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSHD_n3Lyg&t=390s

by tr3ntg 4y ago

notahacker 4y ago

I'm not sure I'd apply the adjectives "level headed and informative" to Andrew Bridgen MP, the crank most recently found tweeting that COVID was invented by the US DoD in Fort Detrick and an unnamed facility in Canada"...

vfclists 4y ago
Ad hominems, the mark of the dogdy debater without counterarguments and facts who who appeals to the intellectually challenged. The speech said nothing about the DoD, Fort Detrick or Canada. He quoted statistics from the UK Government about the efficacy or lack of efficacy of the vaccine. It is also a matter of public record that the US DoD and the NIH funded the EcoHealth Alliance who channelled funds to the Wuhan Institute of Virology for Gain of Function research on the coronavirus. A lot of the coronavirus GoF research was also done by Dr Ralph Baric at Chapel Hill University and guess who funded that as well? Irregardless of how the Covid outbreak occurred if you have some points to make about the content of Andrew Bridgen's speech lets hear them. They are about the efficacy or lack thereof of the vaccines and their side effects and are not about the origin of the Sars Cov 2 virus. For anyone reading this comment, I would advise you to listen to the speech rather than wasting time on snide HN commenters who have no meaningful facts to contribute.
- notahacker 4y ago
  > Ad hominems, the mark of the dogdy debater without counterarguments and facts who who appeals to the intellectually challenged. QED. HNers are of course, free to make up their own minds whether someone who suggests that Fort Detrick and a facility in Canada created COVID and refers to it as a "viral bioweapon" is a "level headed" commentator on the issue likely to be offering accurate interpretations of government statistics well worth taking the time to listen to. And indeed on the subject of your original claim about whether politicians feared the implications of hearing a fearless utterer of such irrefutable truths or just didn't want to dignify someone who has rapidly descended into the political equivalent of Alex Jones with an audience.
  - vfclists 4y ago
    For those interested in Andrew Bridgen's speech here is the link again, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSHD_n3Lyg&t=390s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvSHD_n3Lyg&t=390s