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I'm convinced half the comments are just Chinese bots. It's all the same talking points about how "we totally can't ban these tool developed by our adversary be

by tjs8rj 4y ago

I'm convinced half the comments are just Chinese bots. It's all the same talking points about how "we totally can't ban these tool developed by our adversary because they would just be so hypocritical!". Regardless of how you spin it, you're putting foreign corporate interests above US national interests, and so you deserve as much stock in your opinion as what Putin thinks America should do.

skinnymuch 4y ago
We are one people in the end. Borders are divisions. Nations are divisions. I’m an American who puts everyone’s interests in mind. I don’t see why me not putting US interest above makes my opinion equivalent to Putin’s. A terrible man.
- tjs8rj 4y ago
  That's exactly it. You're not interested in America's interests, and in this case that means you're putting the designs of an adversary first. Consequently when it comes to matters of American interests and national security, your desired outcome here aligns exactly with a terrible man like Putin. And to be clear, even from a globalist perspective, undermining the US to the benefit of China doesn't seem like a great ends for the US.
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    I’m American. I don’t have to be a slave to nationalism. I have agency. You are gaslighting by making up stuff like “if you’re not with us you’re against us”. The whole reason that’s a saying is because we know that’s not actually true. That’s a naive way of looking at the world. I’m not a globalist, so that’s irrelevant to me.
uptownfunk 4y ago
Yes something very odd at work here.
ashwagary 4y ago
>Regardless of how you spin it, you're putting foreign corporate interests above US national interests, and so you deserve as much stock in your opinion as what Putin thinks America should do. One can easily make the case that a lot of American rights potentially undermine US national interests. What is your plan to deal with this reality? Based on your argument it sounds like you are not a fan of a lot of America's founding principles that err on the side of freedom and liberty. If China can really break your adhesion to the US constitution and its hard won amendments with a silly app, you may have already lost.

by tjs8rj 4y ago

skinnymuch 4y ago

We are one people in the end. Borders are divisions. Nations are divisions. I’m an American who puts everyone’s interests in mind. I don’t see why me not putting US interest above makes my opinion equivalent to Putin’s. A terrible man.

tjs8rj 4y ago
That's exactly it. You're not interested in America's interests, and in this case that means you're putting the designs of an adversary first. Consequently when it comes to matters of American interests and national security, your desired outcome here aligns exactly with a terrible man like Putin. And to be clear, even from a globalist perspective, undermining the US to the benefit of China doesn't seem like a great ends for the US.
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  I’m American. I don’t have to be a slave to nationalism. I have agency. You are gaslighting by making up stuff like “if you’re not with us you’re against us”. The whole reason that’s a saying is because we know that’s not actually true. That’s a naive way of looking at the world. I’m not a globalist, so that’s irrelevant to me.

uptownfunk 4y ago

Yes something very odd at work here.

ashwagary 4y ago

>Regardless of how you spin it, you're putting foreign corporate interests above US national interests, and so you deserve as much stock in your opinion as what Putin thinks America should do. One can easily make the case that a lot of American rights potentially undermine US national interests. What is your plan to deal with this reality? Based on your argument it sounds like you are not a fan of a lot of America's founding principles that err on the side of freedom and liberty. If China can really break your adhesion to the US constitution and its hard won amendments with a silly app, you may have already lost.