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To me, you need something so you search for it. I need an image, I will search to get it.

by creativenolo 4y ago

izzydata 4y ago
Is creating an image a substitute for searching for an existing image?
- michaelteter 4y ago
  It's ideal. Unless you are looking for a known, famous image that already exists, why not just order up the image you want and get it without having to dig through whatever was already available (especially considering 99% of what you will find will be stock photography behind a dark _apparently free_ interface).
  - UncleEntity 4y ago
    I don’t think I’ve ever searched for an image that wasn’t specific to whatever I was trying to find. Playing with stable diffusion on the other hand… who would search for “Stalin petting a llama” and what practical application would it have?
    - symlinkk 4y ago
      Memes
    - michaelteter 4y ago
      Imagine a blogger writing about some topic, and they have some ideas of concepts they want to find images that represent. It's possible to sift through tons of stock photography and maybe find one; but that takes a lot of time, and it sometimes ends with an expensive license cost. Instead, with good prompting, you can not request a "photo" which matches your exact desires... close enough to perfectly that your audience won't notice or won't care about the last 1% that is imperfect. And like the early days of online music, not only will people relax and accept imperfections (bad aliasing, mediocre sound quality), they may even become so accustomed to it that they will someday intentionally inject similar imperfections into creations so those feel more "natural" (comfortable based on the audiences' experiences).
- creativenolo 4y ago
  No. But they are different. I myself may search for an image when I don’t have the will or need to create. Or, as a precursor to a creation. It’s the difference between searching an archive or stock photo site vs opening a graphics program. To me, the interesting differentiation is from thinking a search engine being something than indexes information or a product that provides solutions to peoples problems and needs with a single point of entry. (Like why people type URLs into google search) We’ve had search engines return the weather, or calculate a sum, for some time. It seems an obvious evolution for it to create solutions for users given lay users are probably already typing what they want into search.
b33j0r 4y ago
This is respectable, and how I use it. But I do think parent has a point too. There is a goldrush for the best large language model, and the companies with the resources don’t have a more appropriate product to create with it. I share the concerns and optimisms. The concerns. Last week my dad was asking “why are all these businesses closed today?” I typed “holidays today” into bing search bar (not the chat), and it gave me “Holidays in May.” I’m glad he wasn’t confused between similar-sounding medications, I wasn’t expecting bing to be creative on a question like that. The optimism. Freakin, my search engine can create content that never existed before. That’s pretty cool. Our phones aren’t really “phones” anymore, as we have learned. This live prototyping rollout of search-based ML has a similar nature.

To me, you need something so you search for it. I need an image, I will search to get it.

izzydata 4y ago

Is creating an image a substitute for searching for an existing image?

michaelteter 4y ago
It's ideal. Unless you are looking for a known, famous image that already exists, why not just order up the image you want and get it without having to dig through whatever was already available (especially considering 99% of what you will find will be stock photography behind a dark _apparently free_ interface).
- UncleEntity 4y ago
  I don’t think I’ve ever searched for an image that wasn’t specific to whatever I was trying to find. Playing with stable diffusion on the other hand… who would search for “Stalin petting a llama” and what practical application would it have?
  - symlinkk 4y ago
    Memes
  - michaelteter 4y ago
    Imagine a blogger writing about some topic, and they have some ideas of concepts they want to find images that represent. It's possible to sift through tons of stock photography and maybe find one; but that takes a lot of time, and it sometimes ends with an expensive license cost. Instead, with good prompting, you can not request a "photo" which matches your exact desires... close enough to perfectly that your audience won't notice or won't care about the last 1% that is imperfect. And like the early days of online music, not only will people relax and accept imperfections (bad aliasing, mediocre sound quality), they may even become so accustomed to it that they will someday intentionally inject similar imperfections into creations so those feel more "natural" (comfortable based on the audiences' experiences).
creativenolo 4y ago
No. But they are different. I myself may search for an image when I don’t have the will or need to create. Or, as a precursor to a creation. It’s the difference between searching an archive or stock photo site vs opening a graphics program. To me, the interesting differentiation is from thinking a search engine being something than indexes information or a product that provides solutions to peoples problems and needs with a single point of entry. (Like why people type URLs into google search) We’ve had search engines return the weather, or calculate a sum, for some time. It seems an obvious evolution for it to create solutions for users given lay users are probably already typing what they want into search.

b33j0r 4y ago

This is respectable, and how I use it. But I do think parent has a point too. There is a goldrush for the best large language model, and the companies with the resources don’t have a more appropriate product to create with it. I share the concerns and optimisms. The concerns. Last week my dad was asking “why are all these businesses closed today?” I typed “holidays today” into bing search bar (not the chat), and it gave me “Holidays in May.” I’m glad he wasn’t confused between similar-sounding medications, I wasn’t expecting bing to be creative on a question like that. The optimism. Freakin, my search engine can create content that never existed before. That’s pretty cool. Our phones aren’t really “phones” anymore, as we have learned. This live prototyping rollout of search-based ML has a similar nature.