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Is there an equivalent of Godwin's law for "sinophobia"?

skinnymuch 4y ago
Is there a Godwin’s law for the opposite? Check your sibling comment and your own. Both reacting negatively to any one that doesn’t bow down to US interest vs China. As if one side has to be picked.
- flappyeagle 4y ago
  If you’re American or Chinese you don’t really get to pick your side
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Are you claiming Americans and Chinese have no agency on this topic? All humans have some level of agency.
    - kelseyfrog 4y ago
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      - skinnymuch 4y ago
        Being a debate lord is frowned upon in this community. I was positing why you believe people don’t have the agency to choose who they support. You’re asking me to prove something irrelevant to the problem at hand — that somehow every American and every Chinese already have picked sides. Of course I haven’t and I’m American. My friends haven’t. They’re American. My Chinese friends haven’t. They’re Chinese. If you had said most people are victims of the system. Falling for propaganda and manufactured consent thus no true agency in choosing sides, that would be one thing.
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      - skinnymuch 4y ago
        > Sorry, but unless you're willing to engage in good faith debate, I'm really not interested. It sounds like you're apt to make unsubstantiated claims and then get defensive when they are called out. Again your statement isn't the point of the argument. There are two ways in which you are not engaging in good faith. First -- I said a general statement that is tautological anyway. There's no way to prove agency. Why did you project everything you wrote? You're the one that did this. I replied to you with a full statement re-iterating the actual focus. You appear to have blind, ignorant nationalism without regard for the your fellow working class brothers and sister across the world. That's fine, but don't pretend it has to do with anything more than basic cliched nationalism and American exceptionalism

Is there a Godwin’s law for the opposite? Check your sibling comment and your own. Both reacting negatively to any one that doesn’t bow down to US interest vs China. As if one side has to be picked.

flappyeagle 4y ago
If you’re American or Chinese you don’t really get to pick your side
- skinnymuch 4y ago
  Are you claiming Americans and Chinese have no agency on this topic? All humans have some level of agency.
  - kelseyfrog 4y ago
    [flagged]
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Being a debate lord is frowned upon in this community. I was positing why you believe people don’t have the agency to choose who they support. You’re asking me to prove something irrelevant to the problem at hand — that somehow every American and every Chinese already have picked sides. Of course I haven’t and I’m American. My friends haven’t. They’re American. My Chinese friends haven’t. They’re Chinese. If you had said most people are victims of the system. Falling for propaganda and manufactured consent thus no true agency in choosing sides, that would be one thing.
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    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      > Sorry, but unless you're willing to engage in good faith debate, I'm really not interested. It sounds like you're apt to make unsubstantiated claims and then get defensive when they are called out. Again your statement isn't the point of the argument. There are two ways in which you are not engaging in good faith. First -- I said a general statement that is tautological anyway. There's no way to prove agency. Why did you project everything you wrote? You're the one that did this. I replied to you with a full statement re-iterating the actual focus. You appear to have blind, ignorant nationalism without regard for the your fellow working class brothers and sister across the world. That's fine, but don't pretend it has to do with anything more than basic cliched nationalism and American exceptionalism