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The only thing tiktok broke is the revenue model of incumbents. TikTok offers revenue-sharing opportunities with content creators. This change has disrupted the
by waynesonfire 4y ago
The only thing tiktok broke is the revenue model of incumbents. TikTok offers revenue-sharing opportunities with content creators. This change has disrupted the traditional model of social media.
- simonsarris 4y agoYouTube started revenue sharing in 2007. Unlike YouTube, TikTok is not profitable. It is no surprise they show fewer ads when they are generating no profits. There is no "breaking the revenue model of incumbents" when you are not profitable. Perhaps when they try to be profitable, they will be more like... YouTube.
- hgsgm 4y agoYouTube wasn't profitable when it broke the model of incumbents.
- creato 4y agoIt was an actuality different model from the incumbents at the time. TikTok is the same thing as YouTube, just with different tuning for profitability.
- sharemywin 4y agoEven Youtube can't monetize shorts very well.
- cheriot 4y agoIs it a better deal than YouTube? Last I heard TikTok has a pool of money they distribute in some magic way that's not directly tied to either company revenue or a video's view/like counts.
- Arrath 4y agoI've yet to hear very many stories of TikTok randomly and capriciously demonetizing videos as one often hears of YouTube doing, so there is that?
- sujinge9 4y agoTikTok doesn't need to demonetize videos. They just adjust their algorithm to never show it again and it's effectively the same thing.
- hgsgm 4y agoDoes that prevent users from seeing a video from someone they follow?
- 360macky 4y agoDo they have that? I’ve seen that TikTok just shallow-ban that kind of videos.
- nodja 4y agoI haven't used tiktok in a month, but right before I left lots of creators were complaining that their videos weren't getting as much views anymore, specially some that mentioned political stuff and the obvious thirst traps. That essentially becomes their demonetization strategy, if you say things tiktok/ad sellers don't like, you stop being recommended. Youtube on the other hand at least separates their monetization from their recommendation system.
- miguelazo 4y agoWhich is precisely why they’re now conspiring to get it banned under dubious ”national security” pretenses. As if the data-sharing sins in question hadn’t been committed repeatedly by almost every major tech company for the past decade+.
- testHNac 4y agoI guess it's allowed when an American company does it. That's their privilege. In return they give up access to user data, allow deplatforming and shadowbanning whoever they are asked to by people in the government. "American Free Speech" is ensured.
- throwaway12245 4y agoCan I use google in China? Part of it is China can ban US internet companies, but US can't retaliate?
- brwck 4y agoGoogle isn't banned. Google simple chose to leave china because they refuse to follow chinese laws because google is a state controlled corporation. Repeating the same lies doesn't magically turn it into a truth. The difference between google and tiktok is that tiktok follows all the laws and yet still is getting banned.
- qwezxcrty 4y agoYou say Google is not banned, then try to open google.com through any Chinese ISP, can you get anything but connection timeout? Also check Google's transparency report. Which Chinese law didn't Google follow? Failure to implement the never public admitted content censorship? Did Chinese government ever acknowledge it's internet censorship? While banning TikTok is not fair to me, saying Google isn't banned in China is lying.
- dirtyid 4y ago
- wnevets 4y agoI would to love to hear first hand from a TikTok creator in this thread because everything I've seen and heard is that their revenue-sharing is a complete joke and afterthought.
- delecti 4y agoHank Green, a fairly prominent Youtuber and increasingly successful Tiktoker did a video a while back, and AFAIK the situation with the TikTok creator fund hasn't changed significantly since. You basically TLDR'd it: their revenue-sharing is far worse than main Youtube videos, and even quite worse than Youtube's model for Shorts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZapFzpP64&t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZapFzpP64&t
- wnevets 4y agoThat is actually one of the youtubers I had in mind when I made my comment, thanks for linking to his video.
- dannyisaphantom 4y ago[dead]