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I expect them to leave it alone. We leave ours alone and Canada is supposed to be the more enlightened ones.

bcrl 4y ago
That's a fantastical viewpoint that borders on hypocrisy if you look at what the US did over the past 300 years. Forestry is quite sustainable when old growth trees are re-planted with new trees that can be harvested in a few decades. It's not like oil, gas or minerals where once it's gone it is never coming back. Americans seems to be completely fine with exploiting those non-renewable resources until they're gone forever.
- throwayyy479087 4y ago
  That's exactly how old growth works - once it's gone, it's gone forever. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2021/apr/16/forests-felling-swedens-ancient-trees-biodiversity-sami-environment https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2021/apr/16/... I promise, spend time in old growth vs forest cleared in the last 150 years. They're completely different places.
  - bcrl 4y ago
    I live rurally and know the difference, and guess what: the forest I'm in the middle of right now was actually cleared to fields by settlers 150+ years ago. Since it hasn't been farmed for more than 60-70 years, it's reverting back to a more natural state all on its own. I have watched over the past 40 years how the fields have been filled in with more and more trees, and, yes, it's wonderful. Old growth forests can regrow perfectly fine when left alone. Nature is awesome in that regard. If the US actually gave the slightest care about preserving the environment, then they should rein in the companies that are destroying the environment with no chance of nature being able to recover. Cut back on the amount of oil being pulled from the ground and burned, stop bleeding all the rivers dry because of century old water rights, stop creating newer and worse pesticides and stop building bigger and bigger SUVs for the love of god. That it's being done on softwood lumber is entirely a protectionist measure. It has absolutely nothing to do with the valuing the environment; it only matters because the lumber industry has a vested interest in maintaining high prices.

bcrl 4y ago

That's a fantastical viewpoint that borders on hypocrisy if you look at what the US did over the past 300 years. Forestry is quite sustainable when old growth trees are re-planted with new trees that can be harvested in a few decades. It's not like oil, gas or minerals where once it's gone it is never coming back. Americans seems to be completely fine with exploiting those non-renewable resources until they're gone forever.

throwayyy479087 4y ago
That's exactly how old growth works - once it's gone, it's gone forever. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2021/apr/16/forests-felling-swedens-ancient-trees-biodiversity-sami-environment https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gallery/2021/apr/16/... I promise, spend time in old growth vs forest cleared in the last 150 years. They're completely different places.
- bcrl 4y ago
  I live rurally and know the difference, and guess what: the forest I'm in the middle of right now was actually cleared to fields by settlers 150+ years ago. Since it hasn't been farmed for more than 60-70 years, it's reverting back to a more natural state all on its own. I have watched over the past 40 years how the fields have been filled in with more and more trees, and, yes, it's wonderful. Old growth forests can regrow perfectly fine when left alone. Nature is awesome in that regard. If the US actually gave the slightest care about preserving the environment, then they should rein in the companies that are destroying the environment with no chance of nature being able to recover. Cut back on the amount of oil being pulled from the ground and burned, stop bleeding all the rivers dry because of century old water rights, stop creating newer and worse pesticides and stop building bigger and bigger SUVs for the love of god. That it's being done on softwood lumber is entirely a protectionist measure. It has absolutely nothing to do with the valuing the environment; it only matters because the lumber industry has a vested interest in maintaining high prices.