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For reference: > the policy, which means a standard bottle of whisky (700ml) must cost at least £14 and a two-litre bottle of cider £5 This only ever had any

For reference: > the policy, which means a standard bottle of whisky (700ml) must cost at least £14 and a two-litre bottle of cider £5 This only ever had any impact on pricing at the _very_ cheap end of alcohol.

jobs_throwaway 4y ago
Which is probably the end which experiences the most harm from alcoholism and alcohol poisoning if I had to guess
- hughw 4y ago
  Tax the poor.
  - jobs_throwaway 4y ago
    That's one framing. Prevent the poor from killing themselves is another
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    - braingenious 4y ago
      Alcohol is severely physically addictive and people can die from withdrawal directly. Another framing could be “force the poor to steal or commit other crimes to obtain alcohol”
wiredfool 4y ago
We've got something similar in Ireland, Alcohol min price is 10c/ml. Subjectively, It's wiped out bottles of wine < 8 eur, pushed Guinness can prices up about 25%, and dropped the sizes of cheap ass spirits from 750/40% to 500/37.5% at the same 15 eur price point. (this at Lidl, which is always a low price consistent enough quality). IPAs and other high proof beers are starting to come in smaller cans so they're not more than 2eur each. I never paid attention to the 2l strong cider, but I think that was a primary target. Up north, just over the border, you can get 1L Bacardi 40% for about 20£. In France, the 3 eur wine can be ok, and rum is damn cheap, to the point in coming in 3L boxes. There are tetra-pack wines in Spain at 1 eur(absolute crap, but distill well). And then there are the 3l/10Eur jugs of Tokaji Furmint in Hungary (ok, and distills very well).
- gsnedders 4y ago
  > We've got something similar in Ireland, Alcohol min price is 10c/ml. The Scottish one is 5p/ml (roughly 6c/ml over the last five years), so significantly lower.
  - wiredfool 4y ago
    It'll be interesting to see if there's an effect in Ireland then. Actually, I'll be curious to see if there are fewer broken bottles and can litter in some of the well known drinking spots come summer.

jobs_throwaway 4y ago

Which is probably the end which experiences the most harm from alcoholism and alcohol poisoning if I had to guess

hughw 4y ago
Tax the poor.
- jobs_throwaway 4y ago
  That's one framing. Prevent the poor from killing themselves is another
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - braingenious 4y ago
    Alcohol is severely physically addictive and people can die from withdrawal directly. Another framing could be “force the poor to steal or commit other crimes to obtain alcohol”

wiredfool 4y ago

We've got something similar in Ireland, Alcohol min price is 10c/ml. Subjectively, It's wiped out bottles of wine < 8 eur, pushed Guinness can prices up about 25%, and dropped the sizes of cheap ass spirits from 750/40% to 500/37.5% at the same 15 eur price point. (this at Lidl, which is always a low price consistent enough quality). IPAs and other high proof beers are starting to come in smaller cans so they're not more than 2eur each. I never paid attention to the 2l strong cider, but I think that was a primary target. Up north, just over the border, you can get 1L Bacardi 40% for about 20£. In France, the 3 eur wine can be ok, and rum is damn cheap, to the point in coming in 3L boxes. There are tetra-pack wines in Spain at 1 eur(absolute crap, but distill well). And then there are the 3l/10Eur jugs of Tokaji Furmint in Hungary (ok, and distills very well).

gsnedders 4y ago
> We've got something similar in Ireland, Alcohol min price is 10c/ml. The Scottish one is 5p/ml (roughly 6c/ml over the last five years), so significantly lower.
- wiredfool 4y ago
  It'll be interesting to see if there's an effect in Ireland then. Actually, I'll be curious to see if there are fewer broken bottles and can litter in some of the well known drinking spots come summer.