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You're spot on, this is _THE_SITE for extremely detailed analysis of of cameras/lenses/etc. I have no idea what will end up filling the gap of losing something

by fetus8 4y ago

You're spot on, this is _THE_SITE for extremely detailed analysis of of cameras/lenses/etc. I have no idea what will end up filling the gap of losing something like this. I hope Chris and Jordan continue on their Youtube journey and make the content they've been making, but man, there's still a need for a detailed text based site with super indepth info about modern camera equipment. Such a bummer.

oktwtf 4y ago
While I agree that there is some valuable content on the site, there are certainly others to fill in the spots... You want detailed look into equipment? Checkout Ken Rockwell's site[0], or byThom[1] [0]: https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/reviews.htm https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/reviews.htm [1]: https://bythom.com/reviews--books/index.html https://bythom.com/reviews--books/index.html
- asdff 4y ago
  Sites like these are also dying breeds with their days numbered. Informationally dense, text and figure, lightweight websites are not being made anymore. Sites like dpreview or Ken Rockwell are pretty clearly holdovers from days long gone and sensibilities long abandoned. Today, all that information that could be read in 5 minutes on dpreview is drip fed to you in video form from a gesticulating talking head, over 25 minutes with an advertisement every 5, wasting both data and time to likely only end up partially informing you compared to a dpreview or Ken Rockwell article.
  - PaulHoule 4y ago
    I think of how video game walkthroughs have gone this way. It used to be you'd find exhaustive 300k text explanations of everything in a game. Now there is a "let's play" video that goes on for 40 hours, you have to find the right video to watch, then seek to the right place in that video, it's exhausting. The one case I found the video was better was in a certain level where the way forward was to make a jump that didn't look possible and the video made it obvious.
    - visarga 4y ago
      Try the GPTs they might know the game tricks and adapt to your specifics without search, of course if the info is prior to 2021.
      - asdff 4y ago
        It's going to tell you exactly how to compose your pokemon team to beat a gym that doesn't exist in the game
        PaulHoule 4y ago
        My son made it all the way through one of the older games doing all the fighting with one Pokémon, developing others just to host skills like cut. I have been disappointed with recent fire Emblem titles because level trumps the weapons triangle.
      - PaulHoule 4y ago
        I was thinking about information extracting the GameFAQs for certain Hyperdimension Neptunia games to make a knowledge graph so I could figure out the dependency graph of what dungeons I would have to go to to get the items to craft the items that I need to craft an item I want. But then again, I’m a weeaboo.
    - bentcorner 4y ago
      Honestly though, video walkthroughs are an improvement (navigation aside). It's hard to describe a situation entirely via text, and having that plus a short video showing the exact situation (e.g., finding a collectible in a weird location, strategy for defeating a boss, etc.) makes things so much clearer. I've had instances where a walkthrough with pictures still wasn't enough and had to find a video showing me something and it only became clear after that. I recall as a kid that the Zelda OOT water temple was nearly impossible to navigate with a gamefaqs guide. Video back then would have been so much easier.
    - Firmwarrior 4y ago
      I wonder if you could start writing guides on Substack to monetize them.. I think the real problem here is that writing a 300k textbook on GameFAQs gets you a chance at winning some swag, but 40 hours of YouTube videos can actually pay out in the form of money Then again, even though World of Warcraft sites pay guide authors, the guides are super formulaic and low quality... even though I despise video content, I end up getting most of my detailed info that way
  - orangepurple 4y ago
    Cue "it's all so tiresome" from Empire of Dust
  - jjav 4y ago
    > Informationally dense, text and figure, lightweight websites are not being made anymore. I want you to be very wrong, but I guess you're sadly mostly correct. Informationally dense, text and figure, lightweight websites is all I want, those are the only useful ones.
- acomjean 4y ago
  Fred Miranda was a useful set of reviews of lenses from their members. Now it’s mostly forums Which makes sense. Once you have the gear… https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php I used dpreview in the past. They had detailed technical reviews, side by side test shot comaparisons. Really a first class site. They will be missed.
- BeetleB 4y ago
  DP Review's reviews have the benefit that they use the same methodology, so comparing one camera with another was easy. For example, I can do side by side comparisons of how much noise there is at ISO 1600.
- Espressosaurus 4y ago
  Ken Rockwell is a blowhard that copy/pastes info into every "review". His sharpness comparisons are laughable, as is his blatant fanboyism (which went from Nikon to Canon. It's funny to read the things he said about one brand 10 years ago and compare it to what he says about the same brand today). I would not put him into the same category as DPReview with a straight face. DPReview gave us the exposure latitude and high ISO comparison tools, which are wonderful for teasing apart differences in cameras. For example, I know the Z9 is 1 stop worse in high ISO noise performance than the Z7 due to its electronic shutter because I can see it in the comparison. That makes it easy for me to set my max ISO appropriately. Their reviews weren't perfect (I prefer Photography Life's, especially for the lens reviews--but they do principally Nikon reviews), but they were damn good. Nobody does what DPReview did. This is a sad passing, but reflects the general decline in ILC photography unfortunately.
  - dboreham 4y ago
    I don't know him but I have to say I like Ken Rockwell's content. I wouldn't go to him for pixel peeping lens comparisons but for a general overview he's good. There are also nowadays several good YouTubers in this field. And of course there's TDP albeit Canon and Sony-only coverage there.
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    - Espressosaurus 4y ago
      I liked him too when I started out and didn't know better. There are other people out there and I recommend learning from them. Especially composition, lighting, contrast, and colors. Take from Ken the advice to get out and shoot with whatever you have (it's good enough to shoot with if it was made in the last 15 years), ignore everything else he has to say.
    - roelschroeven 4y ago
      On his About page, Ken Rockwell says > To use words of Ansel Adams on page 193 of his autobiography, this site is my "aggressive personal opinion," and not a "logical presentation of fact." This website is a work of fiction, entirely the product of my own imagination and personal opinion. and > I have a big sense of humor, and do this site to entertain you (and myself), as well as to inform and to educate. I occasionally weave fiction and satire into my stories to keep them interesting. I love a good hoax. and > I have the energy and sense of humor of a three-year old, so remember, this is a personal website, and never presented as fact. I enjoy making things up for fun, as does The Onion, and I publish them here. (All of that are his own words!) If you enjoy his writing for entertainment, no problem. But don't take anything written there as fact.
- dhbanes 4y ago
  Please do not recommend Ken Rockwell. Try Fred Miranda
- adamredwoods 4y ago
  Those sites are a fraction of DPReview's content. In all seriousness, where is DPReview's content going? Forums of over 1,000,000 posts. Solid reviews of older cameras. All gone, hopefully to some archival site. It's really surprising to see that content just disappear. Reminds me I need to backup my hard drive...
dhucerbin 4y ago
There’s still https://www.lenstip.com/ https://www.lenstip.com/. English version of Polish site optyczne.pl. What’s funny, team from this site criticized dpreview for being not scientific enough.
throw0101b 4y ago
> I hope Chris and Jordan continue on their Youtube journey […] Joining PetaPixel in May: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6T3qWI2c-Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6T3qWI2c-Y * https://petapixel.com/2023/03/21/chris-niccolls-and-jordan-drake-join-petapixel-to-lead-its-youtube-channel/ https://petapixel.com/2023/03/21/chris-niccolls-and-jordan-d... And their "The end of DPReview" video: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLikDUacsC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLikDUacsC8 They'll planning a few 'closing videos' before things are completely shutdown.
75dvtwin 4y ago
petapixel, flickr groups there is 500px (this is more image oriented) 100asa -- for more professional photographers, and photrio.com for the film camera, and film-development crowd. I do not like petapixel -- because they ask me to register with google or discuss not interested in any of those... I am surprised that dpreview was owned by Amazon. Never knew about this.

by fetus8 4y ago

oktwtf 4y ago

While I agree that there is some valuable content on the site, there are certainly others to fill in the spots... You want detailed look into equipment? Checkout Ken Rockwell's site[0], or byThom[1] [0]: https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/reviews.htm https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/reviews.htm [1]: https://bythom.com/reviews--books/index.html https://bythom.com/reviews--books/index.html

asdff 4y ago
Sites like these are also dying breeds with their days numbered. Informationally dense, text and figure, lightweight websites are not being made anymore. Sites like dpreview or Ken Rockwell are pretty clearly holdovers from days long gone and sensibilities long abandoned. Today, all that information that could be read in 5 minutes on dpreview is drip fed to you in video form from a gesticulating talking head, over 25 minutes with an advertisement every 5, wasting both data and time to likely only end up partially informing you compared to a dpreview or Ken Rockwell article.
- PaulHoule 4y ago
  I think of how video game walkthroughs have gone this way. It used to be you'd find exhaustive 300k text explanations of everything in a game. Now there is a "let's play" video that goes on for 40 hours, you have to find the right video to watch, then seek to the right place in that video, it's exhausting. The one case I found the video was better was in a certain level where the way forward was to make a jump that didn't look possible and the video made it obvious.
  - visarga 4y ago
    Try the GPTs they might know the game tricks and adapt to your specifics without search, of course if the info is prior to 2021.
    - asdff 4y ago
      It's going to tell you exactly how to compose your pokemon team to beat a gym that doesn't exist in the game
      - PaulHoule 4y ago
        My son made it all the way through one of the older games doing all the fighting with one Pokémon, developing others just to host skills like cut. I have been disappointed with recent fire Emblem titles because level trumps the weapons triangle.
    - PaulHoule 4y ago
      I was thinking about information extracting the GameFAQs for certain Hyperdimension Neptunia games to make a knowledge graph so I could figure out the dependency graph of what dungeons I would have to go to to get the items to craft the items that I need to craft an item I want. But then again, I’m a weeaboo.
  - bentcorner 4y ago
    Honestly though, video walkthroughs are an improvement (navigation aside). It's hard to describe a situation entirely via text, and having that plus a short video showing the exact situation (e.g., finding a collectible in a weird location, strategy for defeating a boss, etc.) makes things so much clearer. I've had instances where a walkthrough with pictures still wasn't enough and had to find a video showing me something and it only became clear after that. I recall as a kid that the Zelda OOT water temple was nearly impossible to navigate with a gamefaqs guide. Video back then would have been so much easier.
  - Firmwarrior 4y ago
    I wonder if you could start writing guides on Substack to monetize them.. I think the real problem here is that writing a 300k textbook on GameFAQs gets you a chance at winning some swag, but 40 hours of YouTube videos can actually pay out in the form of money Then again, even though World of Warcraft sites pay guide authors, the guides are super formulaic and low quality... even though I despise video content, I end up getting most of my detailed info that way
- orangepurple 4y ago
  Cue "it's all so tiresome" from Empire of Dust
- jjav 4y ago
  > Informationally dense, text and figure, lightweight websites are not being made anymore. I want you to be very wrong, but I guess you're sadly mostly correct. Informationally dense, text and figure, lightweight websites is all I want, those are the only useful ones.
acomjean 4y ago
Fred Miranda was a useful set of reviews of lenses from their members. Now it’s mostly forums Which makes sense. Once you have the gear… https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/index.php I used dpreview in the past. They had detailed technical reviews, side by side test shot comaparisons. Really a first class site. They will be missed.
BeetleB 4y ago
DP Review's reviews have the benefit that they use the same methodology, so comparing one camera with another was easy. For example, I can do side by side comparisons of how much noise there is at ISO 1600.
Espressosaurus 4y ago
Ken Rockwell is a blowhard that copy/pastes info into every "review". His sharpness comparisons are laughable, as is his blatant fanboyism (which went from Nikon to Canon. It's funny to read the things he said about one brand 10 years ago and compare it to what he says about the same brand today). I would not put him into the same category as DPReview with a straight face. DPReview gave us the exposure latitude and high ISO comparison tools, which are wonderful for teasing apart differences in cameras. For example, I know the Z9 is 1 stop worse in high ISO noise performance than the Z7 due to its electronic shutter because I can see it in the comparison. That makes it easy for me to set my max ISO appropriately. Their reviews weren't perfect (I prefer Photography Life's, especially for the lens reviews--but they do principally Nikon reviews), but they were damn good. Nobody does what DPReview did. This is a sad passing, but reflects the general decline in ILC photography unfortunately.
- dboreham 4y ago
  I don't know him but I have to say I like Ken Rockwell's content. I wouldn't go to him for pixel peeping lens comparisons but for a general overview he's good. There are also nowadays several good YouTubers in this field. And of course there's TDP albeit Canon and Sony-only coverage there.
  - deleted 4y ago
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  - Espressosaurus 4y ago
    I liked him too when I started out and didn't know better. There are other people out there and I recommend learning from them. Especially composition, lighting, contrast, and colors. Take from Ken the advice to get out and shoot with whatever you have (it's good enough to shoot with if it was made in the last 15 years), ignore everything else he has to say.
  - roelschroeven 4y ago
    On his About page, Ken Rockwell says > To use words of Ansel Adams on page 193 of his autobiography, this site is my "aggressive personal opinion," and not a "logical presentation of fact." This website is a work of fiction, entirely the product of my own imagination and personal opinion. and > I have a big sense of humor, and do this site to entertain you (and myself), as well as to inform and to educate. I occasionally weave fiction and satire into my stories to keep them interesting. I love a good hoax. and > I have the energy and sense of humor of a three-year old, so remember, this is a personal website, and never presented as fact. I enjoy making things up for fun, as does The Onion, and I publish them here. (All of that are his own words!) If you enjoy his writing for entertainment, no problem. But don't take anything written there as fact.
dhbanes 4y ago
Please do not recommend Ken Rockwell. Try Fred Miranda
adamredwoods 4y ago
Those sites are a fraction of DPReview's content. In all seriousness, where is DPReview's content going? Forums of over 1,000,000 posts. Solid reviews of older cameras. All gone, hopefully to some archival site. It's really surprising to see that content just disappear. Reminds me I need to backup my hard drive...

dhucerbin 4y ago

There’s still https://www.lenstip.com/ https://www.lenstip.com/. English version of Polish site optyczne.pl. What’s funny, team from this site criticized dpreview for being not scientific enough.

throw0101b 4y ago

> I hope Chris and Jordan continue on their Youtube journey […] Joining PetaPixel in May: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6T3qWI2c-Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6T3qWI2c-Y * https://petapixel.com/2023/03/21/chris-niccolls-and-jordan-drake-join-petapixel-to-lead-its-youtube-channel/ https://petapixel.com/2023/03/21/chris-niccolls-and-jordan-d... And their "The end of DPReview" video: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLikDUacsC8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLikDUacsC8 They'll planning a few 'closing videos' before things are completely shutdown.

75dvtwin 4y ago

petapixel, flickr groups there is 500px (this is more image oriented) 100asa -- for more professional photographers, and photrio.com for the film camera, and film-development crowd. I do not like petapixel -- because they ask me to register with google or discuss not interested in any of those... I am surprised that dpreview was owned by Amazon. Never knew about this.