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I would consider both Stable Diffusion and MidJourney to be startups and both are better by far than the established companies like OpenAI, and there are dozens

I would consider both Stable Diffusion and MidJourney to be startups and both are better by far than the established companies like OpenAI, and there are dozens of LLMs soon catching up with GPT3/4. As you say, it will be a very interesting next 6-12 months..

saiya-jin 4y ago
I played around (till free account expired) with MidJourney and what one can produce out of blue is mind-boggling. Indie devs can with a bit of effort generate much of their art via this for peanuts (the only problem may be consistency from what I've seen, basically every image is like from another artist, even in same batch)
- GaggiX 4y ago
  The biggest problem is that you can't do much if not conditioning the generation with your prompt and maybe image embeddings, if you are an indie dev you would probably find much more useful Stable Diffusion.
- chillfox 4y ago
  If you control the --chaos --stylize and --seed then you can get more consistent results.
Kye 4y ago
Stable Diffusion is a thing you can run on your computer for free and train models for. It's from a research university. Is this one of those more expansive definitions of startup?
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  Presumably he means stability.ai is a startup.
- l33tman 4y ago
  Stability AI who trained Stable Diffusion is a $100M startup. See https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/stability-ai https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/stability-ai
andybak 4y ago
Dall-E is still ahead of the competition for some tasks. Midjourney has a very polished look but it lacks the depth of understanding that Dall-E can manage. I regularly hit prompts that I need to jump into Dall-E for.
- sebzim4500 4y ago
  For playing around, sure. For serious work though you probably need control-net in some way, otherwise you end up with a bunch of images which are great on their own but make no sense together.
- l33tman 4y ago
  Yeah, but text understanding is just one part of the "product" in this space nowadays. If you look at all the modes and features a GUI around SD can do now (like AUTOMATIC1111's) and compare to what you can do at the DALLE2 webpage it's night and day.
motoxpro 4y ago
I wouldnt consider stable diffusion, mid journey and Open AI products. Little bit too low level, they seem to be more platforms that the products are built on. Not to say they aren’t amazing, just that the productized versions (one level up) are being executed really well by the big companies.

saiya-jin 4y ago

I played around (till free account expired) with MidJourney and what one can produce out of blue is mind-boggling. Indie devs can with a bit of effort generate much of their art via this for peanuts (the only problem may be consistency from what I've seen, basically every image is like from another artist, even in same batch)

GaggiX 4y ago
The biggest problem is that you can't do much if not conditioning the generation with your prompt and maybe image embeddings, if you are an indie dev you would probably find much more useful Stable Diffusion.
chillfox 4y ago
If you control the --chaos --stylize and --seed then you can get more consistent results.

Kye 4y ago

Stable Diffusion is a thing you can run on your computer for free and train models for. It's from a research university. Is this one of those more expansive definitions of startup?

sebzim4500 4y ago
Presumably he means stability.ai is a startup.
l33tman 4y ago
Stability AI who trained Stable Diffusion is a $100M startup. See https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/stability-ai https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/stability-ai

andybak 4y ago

Dall-E is still ahead of the competition for some tasks. Midjourney has a very polished look but it lacks the depth of understanding that Dall-E can manage. I regularly hit prompts that I need to jump into Dall-E for.

sebzim4500 4y ago
For playing around, sure. For serious work though you probably need control-net in some way, otherwise you end up with a bunch of images which are great on their own but make no sense together.
l33tman 4y ago
Yeah, but text understanding is just one part of the "product" in this space nowadays. If you look at all the modes and features a GUI around SD can do now (like AUTOMATIC1111's) and compare to what you can do at the DALLE2 webpage it's night and day.

motoxpro 4y ago

I wouldnt consider stable diffusion, mid journey and Open AI products. Little bit too low level, they seem to be more platforms that the products are built on. Not to say they aren’t amazing, just that the productized versions (one level up) are being executed really well by the big companies.