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I had never done any kind of drugs in my life or psychedelics, but took Ayahuasca once with friends who were in the personal wellness space circa 2010. My expe
by dagorenouf 4y ago
I had never done any kind of drugs in my life or psychedelics, but took Ayahuasca once with friends who were in the personal wellness space circa 2010.
My experience:
- tastes like mud
- it’s recommended to vomit after taking it, but I felt too self-conscious because we were all together in the same room
- the first part of the trip was wonderful as I spent 2hours in bliss seeing colored lights, I still remember this feeling fondly
- the next 2 hours were bad as I saw myself as a kid alone crying in recess, but it did help me see past trauma I hadn’t resolved yet
- for the following month, I felt 10x more present in my body and alive.
- I got more confrontational which almost got me into fights, but also got me laid
- after 1 month my state went back to normal, this made me sad since I loved my other, 10x more confident self
- it seems the reason it lasted so long is because I couldn’t vomit in the first place, so the “medecine” stayed with me longer
Overall awesome experience and would love to do it again.
- sva_ 4y agoAwesome experience report, but > it seems the reason it lasted so long is because I couldn’t vomit in the first place, so the “medecine” stayed with me longer I highly doubt that, it was probably metabolized and out of your system in a few days max. What you describe are classical "afterglow" symptoms. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterglow_(drug_culture) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afterglow_(drug_culture)
- FollowingTheDao 4y agoAfterglow is a layman's term but tells you nothing of the science. After the high does of amines (serotonin analog) which results in a drastic change serotonin receptor densities. It takes a while fro these receptors densities to return to normal. DMT behaves as an agonist at both 5-HT2A and 5-HT2C receptors. There is nothing more to the magic than that. P.S. I have the same experience as being on DMT and I do not take DMT and for some reason I am on disability for it. So tell me again how this is beneficial?
- CommitSyn 4y agoI'm confused. What are you on disability for? Surely not for using DMT...
- lalopalota 4y agoSounds like they are on disability because they experience DMT-like effects without taking DMT.
- FollowingTheDao 4y agoYes. I have schizo-affective bipolar disorder and I often have hallucinations.
- CommitSyn 4y agoI see in another comment you said you cured your schizo-affective Bipolar disorder without medication. Do you mind if I ask how you did that? I have a condition (probable personality disorder with extreme anxiety) and I've been taking methadone to get off of opioids for about 4 years now, and I noticed that when I go down on my dose, my symptoms start to flare up. So in essence I'm keeping it in check with the same class of drugs I was using to self-medicate with. I have done DMT and it did do wonders for me (went from daily suicidal ideation to almost no suicidal thoughts in almost a decade) but I think there has to be more.
- bordercases 4y agoIf the phenomena is complex even when the mechanism is glossable, you are missing out in descriptive detail when you imply it is "just" an agonist on those receptors. That itself should be mind-boggling. You have those receptors in your stomach.
- hombre_fatal 4y agoBeing able to dip into an experience at one’s leisure is worlds different than being stuck with that experience due to a long term condition.
- dagorenouf 4y agointeresting, i definitely felt an afterglow as well, hard to know exactly what caused it.
- zer00eyz 4y ago> - I got more confrontational which almost got me into fights, but also got me laid These systems are likely deeply tangled up in your biology. Robert Sapolsky has a Stanford lecture series on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnIGh9g6fA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNnIGh9g6fA Well worth a watch!
- PartiallyTyped 4y agoSapolsky's "Behave" is a great book in my opinion. The series is also very interesting!
- dagorenouf 4y agodidn't even know this was a field of research, looks fascinating
- missingrib 4y agoHow can it be deeply tangled up in his biology if it can be changed by taking a drug?
- jareklupinski 4y agobiology is just applied chemistry
- icu 4y agoDo you think you could shift back into that "10x more confident self" consciously without the Ayahuasca?
- dagorenouf 4y agoI definitely tried but couldn't. It always felt like I was forcing it (becoming aggressive) and not natural like after the ayahuasca.
- red-iron-pine 4y agoFake it till you make it, killer.
- m4jor 4y agoYou could consider doing more drugs.
- waboremo 4y agoInteresting read, but you would think that resolving some of that past trauma that was hidden would allow you to transition into a state that isn't your old "normal", but a nice halfway between your arrogant 10x present self and your old self chained by trauma. Perhaps this experience when bundled with a professional could have great impacts that are permanent, as long as you don't start fighting the therapist I suppose! The opposite could also happen, I don't know. Would be interesting to see studies on this.
- dagorenouf 4y agoactually yeah, some of the friends I did it with actually mixed it with therapy and did dozens of sessions and it helped them tremendously.