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Yes, and Microsoft is spending billions on Bing, if Google pulled a so called Hollywood move, by making Google search a pain to use, people will start using Bin

Yes, and Microsoft is spending billions on Bing, if Google pulled a so called Hollywood move, by making Google search a pain to use, people will start using Bing more. We don't have that with big budget films. DRM died in the music industry, in part, because a number of popular artist, like Trent of NIN were not afraid to go direct to fans without DRM.

jordan0day 15y ago
"DRM died in the music industry" I'm not confident that's a factual statement.
- bigiain 15y ago
  Really? I can't think of anywhere I could go to buy DRMed music right now if I tried... iTMS watermarks music files, but they're not sold DRMed music files for years. Magnatune has _never_ sold DRMed files. ihearmusic.com - no drm. All the direct from artist music I've bought in the last few years - no drm. Soundcloud or artist "Pay what you want" deals - no drm. I can't recall having purchased any "big four" owned music directly online (as opposed to via someone like Apple), but at least in _my_ little world, DRM does appear to be dead...
  - wanorris 15y ago
    Doesn't Spotify use DRM? Which is not to say that it's wrong for them to use DRM on music you didn't buy -- that's a different question. But "only used for music you don't own" isn't the same the same thing as "dead".
    - bigiain 15y ago
      Ahhh yeah - all those streaming services, they seem to think Australia doesn't have the internet, or maybe just that we dont have credit cards to pay for stuff. I'd have to jump through proxied ip addresses and fiddled US billing address credit cards to even find out they're selling DRMed files...
    - ntkachov 15y ago
      Spotify doesn't let you own the music that you listen to though. Netflix doesn't let you keep the movies you watch either. Both are DRMed because thats how the company keeps you subscribing to their services.
  - DanBC 15y ago
    Sansa Fuze's latest firmware update included support for something called "SlotRadio" - a bafflingly awful drmd music format.
- xnxn 15y ago
  I was skeptical as well, but it really is true. The labels gave it up years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#DRM_and_music http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#DRM_a...
nextparadigms 15y ago
Oh come on. Bing is not a serious alternative to Google. Nobody likes sloppy seconds. If anything people would start switching to duckduckgo or something, which does things much more differently.
- hieronymusN 15y ago
  And where does DuckDuckGo get their results from? Bing. http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216399-sources http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216399-s...
rubinelli 15y ago
DRM died because the recording companies realized they were handing Apple a monopoly on digital distribution which would eventually make them irrelevant, the same way that Amazon and the Kindle drastically reduced book publisher influence.

jordan0day 15y ago

"DRM died in the music industry" I'm not confident that's a factual statement.

bigiain 15y ago
Really? I can't think of anywhere I could go to buy DRMed music right now if I tried... iTMS watermarks music files, but they're not sold DRMed music files for years. Magnatune has _never_ sold DRMed files. ihearmusic.com - no drm. All the direct from artist music I've bought in the last few years - no drm. Soundcloud or artist "Pay what you want" deals - no drm. I can't recall having purchased any "big four" owned music directly online (as opposed to via someone like Apple), but at least in _my_ little world, DRM does appear to be dead...
- wanorris 15y ago
  Doesn't Spotify use DRM? Which is not to say that it's wrong for them to use DRM on music you didn't buy -- that's a different question. But "only used for music you don't own" isn't the same the same thing as "dead".
  - bigiain 15y ago
    Ahhh yeah - all those streaming services, they seem to think Australia doesn't have the internet, or maybe just that we dont have credit cards to pay for stuff. I'd have to jump through proxied ip addresses and fiddled US billing address credit cards to even find out they're selling DRMed files...
  - ntkachov 15y ago
    Spotify doesn't let you own the music that you listen to though. Netflix doesn't let you keep the movies you watch either. Both are DRMed because thats how the company keeps you subscribing to their services.
- DanBC 15y ago
  Sansa Fuze's latest firmware update included support for something called "SlotRadio" - a bafflingly awful drmd music format.
xnxn 15y ago
I was skeptical as well, but it really is true. The labels gave it up years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#DRM_and_music http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management#DRM_a...

nextparadigms 15y ago

Oh come on. Bing is not a serious alternative to Google. Nobody likes sloppy seconds. If anything people would start switching to duckduckgo or something, which does things much more differently.

hieronymusN 15y ago
And where does DuckDuckGo get their results from? Bing. http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216399-sources http://help.duckduckgo.com/customer/portal/articles/216399-s...

rubinelli 15y ago

DRM died because the recording companies realized they were handing Apple a monopoly on digital distribution which would eventually make them irrelevant, the same way that Amazon and the Kindle drastically reduced book publisher influence.