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It's absolutely the first one. The series of publications related to the GPT family of models show a steady history of unlocking new capabilities just by reduci

by ftxbro 4y ago

It's absolutely the first one. The series of publications related to the GPT family of models show a steady history of unlocking new capabilities just by reducing token perplexity. In the limited info provided by the GPT-4 press release pdf they gave the example of 'Hindsight Neglect' as one that was automatically unlocked in the move from 3.5 to 4.0. I guess wordle is another one!

ChatGTP 4y ago
I don't know how helpful this is to keep the back and fourth going on what ChatGPT can and can't do, but I found this on Wikipedia[1]: Wordle is a web-based word game created and developed by Welsh software engineer Josh Wardle. It was bought by the New York Times Company in 2022 who has since maintained and published it. Players have six attempts to guess a five-letter word, with feedback given for each guess in the form of colored tiles indicating when letters match or occupy the correct position. The mechanics are nearly identical to the 1955 pen-and-paper game Jotto and the television game show franchise Lingo. Wordle has a single daily solution, with all players attempting to guess the same word. Wardle created the game for himself and his partner to play, eventually making it public in October 2021. The game gained popularity in December 2021 after Wardle added the ability for players to copy their daily results as emoji squares, which were widely shared on Twitter. Many clones and variations of the game were also created, as were versions in languages besides English. The game was purchased by The New York Times Company in January 2022 for an undisclosed seven-figure sum, with plans to keep it free for all players; it was moved to the company's website in February 2022.* I'm not downplaying this but I mean, if there have been games with nearly identical mechanics since 1955...well you can extrapolate from there. I'm now starting to get the vibe that more harm is being done by OpenAI by keeping the training set secret. We're all confused on what to believe. Maybe it "worked it out" maybe it didn't. It is certainly impressive either way I guess. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordle
- ftxbro 4y ago
  Yeah it looks like I was wrong, and that both 3.5 and 4.0 have seen wordle before getting the prompt even though it was released in late 2021 and even though 4.0 can solve it but 3.5 can't.
  - ChatGTP 4y ago
    It is really hard to understand what's real. I have a bit of a suspicion, Microsoft is reading or as someone else has suggested, "sampling" private GitHub repos, that's why it seems so magic at coding...it is good at coding, yes, but that's why I feel it performs so well on domains people don't expect it to form well.
zone411 4y ago
However, if you ask ChatGPT (GPT-4) about Wordle, it knows about it. > tell me about wordle Wordle is a popular online word game that gained significant traction in the early 2020s. The game's objective is to guess a secret five-letter word within six attempts. In each attempt, the player submits a five-letter word. The game provides feedback on the submitted word using three different colors: Yellow: A letter in the submitted word is correct but is in the wrong position. Gray: A letter in the submitted word is not in the secret word. Green: A letter in the submitted word is correct and in the correct position. Using the feedback provided, the player continues to guess the secret word until they either succeed or exhaust their six attempts. The game's simple yet addictive nature contributed to its widespread popularity, and it became a daily ritual for many people. Due to its popularity, several variations and clones of Wordle have emerged, including ones that involve guessing phrases or identifying words in different languages. > give me examples of wordle puzzles Wordle puzzles involve guessing a secret five-letter word within six attempts. While it's difficult to provide specific examples since the puzzles are generated daily, I can walk you through a hypothetical example: Secret word: APPLE Attempt 1: PLATE Feedback: P (Yellow), L (Yellow) Attempt 2: PEACH Feedback: P (Yellow), E (Yellow) Attempt 3: PANEL Feedback: P (Yellow), A (Yellow), E (Yellow), L (Yellow) Attempt 4: APPLE Feedback: A (Green), P (Green), P (Green), L (Green), E (Green) In this example, the player successfully guessed the secret word "APPLE" in four attempts. The feedback provided after each attempt helped the player deduce the correct letters and their positions.
- ftxbro 4y ago
  Yeah it looks like I was wrong, and that both 3.5 and 4.0 have seen wordle before getting the prompt even though it was released in late 2021 and even though 4.0 can solve it but 3.5 can't.
- Thorentis 4y ago
  Also interesting that Apple is used as the example here and is also the first guess in the Tweet.
  - addandsubtract 4y ago

by ftxbro 4y ago

ChatGTP 4y ago

I don't know how helpful this is to keep the back and fourth going on what ChatGPT can and can't do, but I found this on Wikipedia[1]: Wordle is a web-based word game created and developed by Welsh software engineer Josh Wardle. It was bought by the New York Times Company in 2022 who has since maintained and published it. Players have six attempts to guess a five-letter word, with feedback given for each guess in the form of colored tiles indicating when letters match or occupy the correct position. The mechanics are nearly identical to the 1955 pen-and-paper game Jotto and the television game show franchise Lingo. Wordle has a single daily solution, with all players attempting to guess the same word. Wardle created the game for himself and his partner to play, eventually making it public in October 2021. The game gained popularity in December 2021 after Wardle added the ability for players to copy their daily results as emoji squares, which were widely shared on Twitter. Many clones and variations of the game were also created, as were versions in languages besides English. The game was purchased by The New York Times Company in January 2022 for an undisclosed seven-figure sum, with plans to keep it free for all players; it was moved to the company's website in February 2022.* I'm not downplaying this but I mean, if there have been games with nearly identical mechanics since 1955...well you can extrapolate from there. I'm now starting to get the vibe that more harm is being done by OpenAI by keeping the training set secret. We're all confused on what to believe. Maybe it "worked it out" maybe it didn't. It is certainly impressive either way I guess. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordle

ftxbro 4y ago
Yeah it looks like I was wrong, and that both 3.5 and 4.0 have seen wordle before getting the prompt even though it was released in late 2021 and even though 4.0 can solve it but 3.5 can't.
- ChatGTP 4y ago
  It is really hard to understand what's real. I have a bit of a suspicion, Microsoft is reading or as someone else has suggested, "sampling" private GitHub repos, that's why it seems so magic at coding...it is good at coding, yes, but that's why I feel it performs so well on domains people don't expect it to form well.

zone411 4y ago

However, if you ask ChatGPT (GPT-4) about Wordle, it knows about it. > tell me about wordle Wordle is a popular online word game that gained significant traction in the early 2020s. The game's objective is to guess a secret five-letter word within six attempts. In each attempt, the player submits a five-letter word. The game provides feedback on the submitted word using three different colors: Yellow: A letter in the submitted word is correct but is in the wrong position. Gray: A letter in the submitted word is not in the secret word. Green: A letter in the submitted word is correct and in the correct position. Using the feedback provided, the player continues to guess the secret word until they either succeed or exhaust their six attempts. The game's simple yet addictive nature contributed to its widespread popularity, and it became a daily ritual for many people. Due to its popularity, several variations and clones of Wordle have emerged, including ones that involve guessing phrases or identifying words in different languages. > give me examples of wordle puzzles Wordle puzzles involve guessing a secret five-letter word within six attempts. While it's difficult to provide specific examples since the puzzles are generated daily, I can walk you through a hypothetical example: Secret word: APPLE Attempt 1: PLATE Feedback: P (Yellow), L (Yellow) Attempt 2: PEACH Feedback: P (Yellow), E (Yellow) Attempt 3: PANEL Feedback: P (Yellow), A (Yellow), E (Yellow), L (Yellow) Attempt 4: APPLE Feedback: A (Green), P (Green), P (Green), L (Green), E (Green) In this example, the player successfully guessed the secret word "APPLE" in four attempts. The feedback provided after each attempt helped the player deduce the correct letters and their positions.

ftxbro 4y ago
Yeah it looks like I was wrong, and that both 3.5 and 4.0 have seen wordle before getting the prompt even though it was released in late 2021 and even though 4.0 can solve it but 3.5 can't.
Thorentis 4y ago
Also interesting that Apple is used as the example here and is also the first guess in the Tweet.
- addandsubtract 4y ago