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I've been a (happy) Lineage OS user since 2013, and Pixel 2 is still supported by them, so you can check them out. But note that the security updates provided b
by est31 4y ago
I've been a (happy) Lineage OS user since 2013, and Pixel 2 is still supported by them, so you can check them out. But note that the security updates provided by Lineage OS only pertain to the Android part, not the modem part. This isn't something that a third party OS vendor can fix, as the modem/firmware updates are supplied by the device vendor. And even those are reliant on their suppliers, so ultimately unless they have the negotion power of a multi trillion dollar company (not every vendor has that), they don't have the power to support devices for a long time either (see Fairphone's struggles with qualcomm for example).
For Lineage OS, they maintain the kernels released by the vendors and backport patches to them. But this often means that the backports only address the publicized CVEs and might gloss over a lot of changes between kernel versions that might not have had famous bugfixes. A lot of patches don't end up in a kernel, and often while the version number reads of that of a modern kernel, only a small percentage of the patches in that kernel release was applied compared to the upstream kernel. For this it's important to note that the kernel doesn't have a clean separation between "bugfix" and "CVE fix" for patches, this is already a problem that their officially maintained LTS versions have.
From the security point of view you are definitely better off than staying on something that's unpatched, but I have to mirror what parker_mountain is saying. It's way _way_ better to just get an iPhone as that also gives you modem security updates for half a decade. I am really unhappy about the lack of freedom these devices give me, but I have switched to an SE one year ago. It's just such an incredibly good TCO for really good security.
- jeffparsons 4y agoThanks for that extensive write-up. This is some serious food for thought. Also, I thought I recognised your username. I use at least one of your crates. Thanks for those, too! :)
- est31 4y agoGlad that you liked my writeup (and my crates)!
- hulitu 4y ago> It's just such an incredibly good TCO for really good security Good security when you cannot turn WiFi and mobile data off because it has to talk to mothership ?
- starchturrets 4y agoYou can turn off WiFi and cellular data on iOS.
- cookiengineer 4y agoI am always diverged in my personal opinion about open source and the problems that come with it. LineageOS has improved a lot over the years, and Android 12 (10+ with GSI images) finally has a working OTA update workflow. But honestly, the "Android is not Android" problem is hard to communicate and endusers have so many pitfalls. If you tell them "oh yeah I actually use RethinkDNS as an adblocker, combined with Fennec via F-Droid and its uBlock Origin extension that only somewhat works on mobile due to their messy UI" then you lost already 99% of users that will never figure out how to flash their device with the custom ROM, let alone understand what you just said. It's so sad that you also have to tell them "but use only one of maybe 10 devices, all other Android devices are either totally outdated with their kernel or cannot be supported anymore"... and when I read your comment I kind of have to agree with your point. iPhones have zero maintenance. It's a golden cage but it's a well built one, and most users just don't want to spend days and weeks learning how to maintain their smartphone.