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Pixel 6 and 7 are also guaranteed security updates for at least 5 years: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 https://support.google.com/pixelph

Pixel 6 and 7 are also guaranteed security updates for at least 5 years: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705

wyldfire 4y ago
And yet Google used Exynos for those designs. Somehow Samsung must have told project zero that they didn't need to release a fix - a project run by their customer for this SoC. But promptly after disclosure a fix appears. I guess it's good that they'll come out for five years, but it's probably worth a little bit of doubt on our part whether Samsung will actually deliver on that promise.
- philistine 4y ago
  Oh my god is that why Apple has yet to put modems in their laptops? I could totally see Apple unable to compromise on support for a Qualcomm modem for something like 8 years.
  - wyldfire 4y ago
    Apple's designed Qualcomm out of next-generation iPhones (again) [1], only this time they've acquired the Intel/Infineon modem design team instead of buying the parts. So if Apple were to make a Macbook with a modem next year, it'd be their own. [1] https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/iphone-se-4-reportedly-back-in-development-with-apple-built-5g-modem/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/iphone-se-4-reportedly-back...
  - parker_mountain 4y ago
    Honestly, I think it's because they believe anyone with a macbook should have an iphone - their easy and transparent tethering works embarrassingly well.
jeffparsons 4y ago
> Pixel 6 and later phones will get updates for at least 5 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US. That's not really the same thing as "updates for at least 5 years". The date the device first went on sale in the US isn't particularly relevant. They'll still sell it to you long after that, and then end support not long after it's out of warranty. That's what happened to mine. The lessons I'm learning here (if I'm running a first party OS) are: - Check very carefully how long different vendors actually support their devices. Google is pretty rubbish on this front, it turns out. - Always buy the latest model when buying a new phone, even if it doesn't have anything I need, or I'll just have to "upgrade" twice as frequently instead.

Pixel 6 and 7 are also guaranteed security updates for at least 5 years: https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705 https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/4457705

wyldfire 4y ago

And yet Google used Exynos for those designs. Somehow Samsung must have told project zero that they didn't need to release a fix - a project run by their customer for this SoC. But promptly after disclosure a fix appears. I guess it's good that they'll come out for five years, but it's probably worth a little bit of doubt on our part whether Samsung will actually deliver on that promise.

philistine 4y ago
Oh my god is that why Apple has yet to put modems in their laptops? I could totally see Apple unable to compromise on support for a Qualcomm modem for something like 8 years.
- wyldfire 4y ago
  Apple's designed Qualcomm out of next-generation iPhones (again) [1], only this time they've acquired the Intel/Infineon modem design team instead of buying the parts. So if Apple were to make a Macbook with a modem next year, it'd be their own. [1] https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/iphone-se-4-reportedly-back-in-development-with-apple-built-5g-modem/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/iphone-se-4-reportedly-back...
- parker_mountain 4y ago
  Honestly, I think it's because they believe anyone with a macbook should have an iphone - their easy and transparent tethering works embarrassingly well.

jeffparsons 4y ago

> Pixel 6 and later phones will get updates for at least 5 years from when the device first became available on the Google Store in the US. That's not really the same thing as "updates for at least 5 years". The date the device first went on sale in the US isn't particularly relevant. They'll still sell it to you long after that, and then end support not long after it's out of warranty. That's what happened to mine. The lessons I'm learning here (if I'm running a first party OS) are: - Check very carefully how long different vendors actually support their devices. Google is pretty rubbish on this front, it turns out. - Always buy the latest model when buying a new phone, even if it doesn't have anything I need, or I'll just have to "upgrade" twice as frequently instead.