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Definition of recursive in the everyday English sense: > Of or relating to a repeating process whose output at each stage is applied as input in the succeeding

Definition of recursive in the everyday English sense: > Of or relating to a repeating process whose output at each stage is applied as input in the succeeding stage. This sounds very recursive by that definition.

YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
There ain't no definition of recursive in "the everyday English sense". You may as well ask your grandma how she sucks eggs "recursively".
- blowski 4y ago
  https://www.wordnik.com/words/recursive https://www.wordnik.com/words/recursive This usage of the word is first recorded in 1620. > You may as well ask your grandma how she sucks eggs "recursively". I guess this would involve her using an already sucked egg to suck another one.
  - YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
    >> This usage of the word is first recorded in 1620. And that just goes to show that it's an "everyday" word, right? Like, dunno, "alarum" (a sound to the battel), "burgesse" (a head man of a towne), "combure" (burne or consume with fire) and many other words from the same time [1]? >> I guess this would involve her using an already sucked egg to suck another one. See what I mean? No, for recursion she has to suck the egg and then put it back in the shell, and suck again. She has to use both her mouth, to suck, and her nose to expell. It can be done, the nasal cavity and the pharynx are a closed loop. I mean, if you wanna play with words, we can all have some fun, eh? ________________ [1] https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DOdiAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DOdiAAAAcAAJ&printsec=fr...
    - andyk 4y ago
      Why hypothesize what our grandmas would say when we can ask GPT: you are a grandma sucking eggs recursively. Let's think step by step: 1. Take an egg in your mouth. 2. Suck the egg, swirling your tongue around it to extract the inside. 3. Spit out the empty eggshell. 4. Repeat steps 1-3 until all the eggs have been sucked. https://andykonwinski.com/assets/img/sucking-eggs-2.png https://andykonwinski.com/assets/img/sucking-eggs-2.png
      - YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
        I appreciate the humour. But in the current climate I have to ask: you can tell that's not recursion, yes? Please say yes? Btw, that's not how you suck eggs, being "you" a grandmother or not. To suck eggs, you: 1. Take a needle 2. Take an egg 3. Make a hole with the needle on one end of the egg. 4. Put your finger on the hole to close it. 5. Keep the hole closed. 6. Make a hole with the needle on the other end of the egg. 7. Put your mouth around the hole in the egg [1] 8. Suck hard, simultaneously lifting your finger. And that, dear congregation, is the way to succeed, and the way to suck eggs. ______________ [1] Yes, that's the famous step where you get innoculated with all the good, healthy gut bacteria from the chicken's arse. People in the old days never got sick and that's just because they sucked so many eggs. See? Makes sense.
        YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
        Btw, it just occurred to me that the above perfectly demonstrates the difference between ChatGPT and a human: a human knows how to suck egs. (and how much it sucks).
        blowski 4y ago
        We’re using two different definitions of recursion. Both are in the dictionary. Both are in active usage. Whether you think one is obsolete is irrelevant.

YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago

There ain't no definition of recursive in "the everyday English sense". You may as well ask your grandma how she sucks eggs "recursively".

blowski 4y ago
https://www.wordnik.com/words/recursive https://www.wordnik.com/words/recursive This usage of the word is first recorded in 1620. > You may as well ask your grandma how she sucks eggs "recursively". I guess this would involve her using an already sucked egg to suck another one.
- YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
  >> This usage of the word is first recorded in 1620. And that just goes to show that it's an "everyday" word, right? Like, dunno, "alarum" (a sound to the battel), "burgesse" (a head man of a towne), "combure" (burne or consume with fire) and many other words from the same time [1]? >> I guess this would involve her using an already sucked egg to suck another one. See what I mean? No, for recursion she has to suck the egg and then put it back in the shell, and suck again. She has to use both her mouth, to suck, and her nose to expell. It can be done, the nasal cavity and the pharynx are a closed loop. I mean, if you wanna play with words, we can all have some fun, eh? ________________ [1] https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DOdiAAAAcAAJ&printsec=frontcover&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=DOdiAAAAcAAJ&printsec=fr...
  - andyk 4y ago
    Why hypothesize what our grandmas would say when we can ask GPT: you are a grandma sucking eggs recursively. Let's think step by step: 1. Take an egg in your mouth. 2. Suck the egg, swirling your tongue around it to extract the inside. 3. Spit out the empty eggshell. 4. Repeat steps 1-3 until all the eggs have been sucked. https://andykonwinski.com/assets/img/sucking-eggs-2.png https://andykonwinski.com/assets/img/sucking-eggs-2.png
    - YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
      I appreciate the humour. But in the current climate I have to ask: you can tell that's not recursion, yes? Please say yes? Btw, that's not how you suck eggs, being "you" a grandmother or not. To suck eggs, you: 1. Take a needle 2. Take an egg 3. Make a hole with the needle on one end of the egg. 4. Put your finger on the hole to close it. 5. Keep the hole closed. 6. Make a hole with the needle on the other end of the egg. 7. Put your mouth around the hole in the egg [1] 8. Suck hard, simultaneously lifting your finger. And that, dear congregation, is the way to succeed, and the way to suck eggs. ______________ [1] Yes, that's the famous step where you get innoculated with all the good, healthy gut bacteria from the chicken's arse. People in the old days never got sick and that's just because they sucked so many eggs. See? Makes sense.
      - YeGoblynQueenne 4y ago
        Btw, it just occurred to me that the above perfectly demonstrates the difference between ChatGPT and a human: a human knows how to suck egs. (and how much it sucks).
      - blowski 4y ago
        We’re using two different definitions of recursion. Both are in the dictionary. Both are in active usage. Whether you think one is obsolete is irrelevant.