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> Former barista who did a 90-day bootcamp and trying to find a job? Oooof, good luck. I had multiple job openings for my team throughout the pandemic and I do
by nerdix 4y ago
> Former barista who did a 90-day bootcamp and trying to find a job? Oooof, good luck.
I had multiple job openings for my team throughout the pandemic and I dont think that people who are not constantly exposed to the hiring side really understand how wonky things were.
You had this confluence of both whole sectors of the economy completely shutting down and tech experiencing a big boom. This caused A LOT of people to try to make a transition to tech.
I had a job listing for a Senior Dev. I was completely inundated with resumes from recent bootcamp grads. No indication that they had any experience whatsoever or that they even knew what a variable was prior to the start of their bootcamp 6 months ago. I got resumes from people who were waiters, mechanics, construction workers, fast food workers, etc.
Most of these people are not going to make it in the industry long term (assuming they ever even got the first job). I wasn't around during the dotcom boom but I read stories about people landing six figure jobs because they learned HTML. Landing a 6 figure job by going to a 6 month React bootcamp is the modern day equivalent of that. Most of the 1999 HTML guys are no longer around. The bubble popped, the tech jobs were less plentiful and they moved on. I suspect the same will be true for most of the JS bootcampers.
- 908B64B197 4y ago>> Former barista who did a 90-day bootcamp and trying to find a job? Oooof, good luck. It's almost as if you couldn't seriously be hired at a law firm after a 90 day Law bootcamp. Shocking. I'm just angry at the people who run these bootcamps and lure "students" into cutting them big checks, promising them 70-80K jobs that never materialize. > I had a job listing for a Senior Dev. I was completely inundated with resumes from recent bootcamp grads. No indication that they had any experience whatsoever or that they even knew what a variable was prior to the start of their bootcamp 6 months ago. I got resumes from people who were waiters, mechanics, construction workers, fast food workers, etc. That was for dev jobs. Imagine all the "tech adjacent" jobs out there (PM, tech recruiters, something something diversity). The signal to noise ratio during the pandemic was catastrophically bad. No wonder there are so many layoffs happening right now.
- linuxftw 4y agoYou got these applications because almost nobody hires junior developers. I'm sure they would rather apply to 'entry level developer' job listings, but there are none, so they apply to whatever they can find. Why aren't there any entry level positions? We don't need any, we have 100M people with degrees everyone else in the world banging down the door to work here, so there's no incentive for corporations to train junior developers.
- xboxnolifes 4y agoIt's hard for me to rationalize that there is no need for entry level positions when every thread like this brings hiring managers out of the woodworks saying how they can't find talent to fill positions.
- nikau 4y agoProblem is you don't want bootcamp barista as your new entry level employee, you want the nerd who has been into computers for years and is probably on par with your senior devs just without the workplace experience.
- red-iron-pine 4y agoThey went to India. Croatia. Or got automated.