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> how long you have to do what? It seemed fairly obvious from the GP: How long they have before they get laid-off and struggle to find employment in the techno

> how long you have to do what? It seemed fairly obvious from the GP: How long they have before they get laid-off and struggle to find employment in the technology industry. > i have lived with 2$ per day and with 200$ per day and its fine I've lived on $0 a day, seeing as I've literally been homeless and dead broke in my life, but today I have a demanding career, a spouse, children, dogs, a home, etc., and all of them are massively dependent on me. I don't think I'm personally at-risk of losing my job today but, like the GP, I also have to regularly engage with my brain to keep my anxiety about the future of the technology industry at bay. edit/ And that's just me, I'm a US citizen and CBP can't come deport me because my Visa expired. There are other things at stake here for a lot of people beyond the simple act of earning an income.

BurningFrog 4y ago
According to the immigration lawyers I've talked to, nobody gets deported for overstaying a tech work visa. ICE has priorities, and this is very far from being one of them.
- estebank 4y ago
  You might not get deported, but overstaying a visa will cause you trouble if you are ever planning on getting a new visa afterwards, be it dual-intent or just to visit. Not being able to attend an on-site meeting or conference because you took "too long" to pack up and leave after having your life uprooted from one day to the next still sucks, even if it isn't as traumatizing as being raided in the middle of the night.
hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago
> I have a demanding [...] spouse Many people can relate to that. On a more serious note, there is not much we can do about all this, really. We neither have the complete picture nor know what hides behind the corner. So relaxing a bit (while still taking the time to learn some new skills...) is not bad advice.
- scruple 4y ago
  We can vote. We can unionize. We can push for better healthcare, education, labor, etc., policy. The status quo is the problem here, IMO, which I believe is the source of much of the anxiety many of us experience in this era.
  - cmh89 4y ago
    It speaks strongly to how hostile capitalism is to human happiness that the thought of making work easier and faster scares us. Future benefits of technology will primarily be enjoyed by the 1% with the other 99% becoming poorer and working (hours wise) more.
    - prepend 4y ago
      Yet capitalism is responsible for the greatest elimination of poverty in human history (comparing people in extreme poverty 50 years ago until today). I think it’s a transitional economic force though. Like it works for getting super poor, super inefficient systems up to moderate and then starts scooping up and concentrating. I feel like being able to complain about capitalism is a luxury created by capitalism and people who are too poor complain about other things (like starving to death). Similarly to the shift from dying from infectious disease to dying from chronic disease due to eliminating or reducing preventable disease. It’s not that vaccines cause cancer and diabetes, it’s that vaccines stop people dying earlier of vaccine preventable diseases.
    - awesomegoat_com 4y ago
      Happiness cannot be measured and managers cannot manage something that cannot be measured. You see?
    - WalterBright 4y ago
      > Future benefits of technology will primarily be enjoyed by the 1% with the other 99% becoming poorer and working (hours wise) more. The history of technology & capitalism is quite the reverse. A few years back, a steamboat from the 1850s was discovered buried in the muck in the Missisoupi. Archeologists rushed to dig it up and discover what it was carrying. They had the same notion you did. They were shocked that the steamboat was not carrying luxury items at all. It was loaded to the gills with manufactured stuff for ordinary folks. Things like factory made shoes, textiles, tools, pots, pans, dishes, bottled food, nails, hardware, etc. You see the same thing today with, for example, the iphone. That machine was made for everyone, not just the 1%. And it made Apple the richest company in the world. Look at what wealthy tech companies make - they make stuff for ordinary people.
sneak 4y ago
Reduce expenses, save liquid cash. It's always good advice, but especially now. Having six months of outflows liquid in a special savings account goes a long way for peace of mind.
- ajmurmann 4y ago
  I think OP also was concerned that our tech jobs get automated away. If that turns out true, a career change and finding a new job will take much longer than six months.
  - sneak 4y ago
    Common sense isn't. This is an unreasonable fear. If your job can be automated, you should be out of work. If you are delivering actual value, you will always have opportunities. Someone is still going to be doing the automating. Computers can't think.

BurningFrog 4y ago

According to the immigration lawyers I've talked to, nobody gets deported for overstaying a tech work visa. ICE has priorities, and this is very far from being one of them.

estebank 4y ago
You might not get deported, but overstaying a visa will cause you trouble if you are ever planning on getting a new visa afterwards, be it dual-intent or just to visit. Not being able to attend an on-site meeting or conference because you took "too long" to pack up and leave after having your life uprooted from one day to the next still sucks, even if it isn't as traumatizing as being raided in the middle of the night.

hdjjhhvvhga 4y ago

> I have a demanding [...] spouse Many people can relate to that. On a more serious note, there is not much we can do about all this, really. We neither have the complete picture nor know what hides behind the corner. So relaxing a bit (while still taking the time to learn some new skills...) is not bad advice.

scruple 4y ago
We can vote. We can unionize. We can push for better healthcare, education, labor, etc., policy. The status quo is the problem here, IMO, which I believe is the source of much of the anxiety many of us experience in this era.
- cmh89 4y ago
  It speaks strongly to how hostile capitalism is to human happiness that the thought of making work easier and faster scares us. Future benefits of technology will primarily be enjoyed by the 1% with the other 99% becoming poorer and working (hours wise) more.
  - prepend 4y ago
    Yet capitalism is responsible for the greatest elimination of poverty in human history (comparing people in extreme poverty 50 years ago until today). I think it’s a transitional economic force though. Like it works for getting super poor, super inefficient systems up to moderate and then starts scooping up and concentrating. I feel like being able to complain about capitalism is a luxury created by capitalism and people who are too poor complain about other things (like starving to death). Similarly to the shift from dying from infectious disease to dying from chronic disease due to eliminating or reducing preventable disease. It’s not that vaccines cause cancer and diabetes, it’s that vaccines stop people dying earlier of vaccine preventable diseases.
  - awesomegoat_com 4y ago
    Happiness cannot be measured and managers cannot manage something that cannot be measured. You see?
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    > Future benefits of technology will primarily be enjoyed by the 1% with the other 99% becoming poorer and working (hours wise) more. The history of technology & capitalism is quite the reverse. A few years back, a steamboat from the 1850s was discovered buried in the muck in the Missisoupi. Archeologists rushed to dig it up and discover what it was carrying. They had the same notion you did. They were shocked that the steamboat was not carrying luxury items at all. It was loaded to the gills with manufactured stuff for ordinary folks. Things like factory made shoes, textiles, tools, pots, pans, dishes, bottled food, nails, hardware, etc. You see the same thing today with, for example, the iphone. That machine was made for everyone, not just the 1%. And it made Apple the richest company in the world. Look at what wealthy tech companies make - they make stuff for ordinary people.

sneak 4y ago

Reduce expenses, save liquid cash. It's always good advice, but especially now. Having six months of outflows liquid in a special savings account goes a long way for peace of mind.

ajmurmann 4y ago
I think OP also was concerned that our tech jobs get automated away. If that turns out true, a career change and finding a new job will take much longer than six months.
- sneak 4y ago
  Common sense isn't. This is an unreasonable fear. If your job can be automated, you should be out of work. If you are delivering actual value, you will always have opportunities. Someone is still going to be doing the automating. Computers can't think.