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We leveraged Airbyte - it makes supporting that many connections much more seamless ... and a lot of coding!

mritchie712 4y ago
Have you check Airbyte's license[0]? Much of it is Elastic License 2.0, which I don't think allows what you're doing. 0 - https://github.com/airbytehq/airbyte/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/airbytehq/airbyte/blob/master/LICENSE
- danpalmer 4y ago
  > You may not provide the software to third parties as a hosted or managed service, where the service provides users with access to any substantial set of the features or functionality of the software. The screenshots of Airbyte and Lume even look nearly the same. It looks like it's just a hosted Airbyte instance with GPT generating the SQL/config. Smart for an MVP, not much of a moat for the long term, and it's a shame that software licencing is such a blindspot for so many SV startups.
  - mritchie712 4y ago
    I personally wouldn't do this even for an MVP. The product is competitive with Airbyte and they're breaking Airbyte's license. Definitely cases where it's ok to do something similar for an MVP, but I wouldn't touch this product knowing they can't continue to operate it this way (could get shut down at any moment). I'm a bit surprised someone at YC didn't flag this.
    - swyx 4y ago
      for what its worth airbyte's connectors themselves are MIT https://airbyte.com/blog/a-new-license-to-future-proof-the-commoditization-of-data-integration https://airbyte.com/blog/a-new-license-to-future-proof-the-c... arguably this is "much of it" rather than ELv2
    - Nebyou 4y ago
      Thanks for raising this. We share your respect for the intellectual property rights of others. We are aware of Airbyte's license structure and use connectors per its terms.
      - danpalmer 4y ago
        Nice, if the connectors are MIT licenced but you've got your own server, that's great. It might be worth differentiating the product further. Right now, looking at screenshots, it looks like a re-skin. I realise there's only so much you can differentiate an ETL service, and that the LLM feature is the main differentiating factor, but I do worry that it's very close right now.
      - jeanlaf 4y ago
        Hi team! I'm one of the Airbyte co-founders. I think it might be worth chatting regarding the license indeed :). Don't hesitate to reach out to me on our Slack "John (Airbyte)"
  - Nebyou 4y ago
    This is not a simply a hosted airbyte instance. We use airbyte's connectors for its common standards and the active community behind them. That being said, our use of the project is both limited, customized, and deeply embedded under our app. We do not use any UI components from Airbyte.

Have you check Airbyte's license[0]? Much of it is Elastic License 2.0, which I don't think allows what you're doing. 0 - https://github.com/airbytehq/airbyte/blob/master/LICENSE https://github.com/airbytehq/airbyte/blob/master/LICENSE

danpalmer 4y ago
> You may not provide the software to third parties as a hosted or managed service, where the service provides users with access to any substantial set of the features or functionality of the software. The screenshots of Airbyte and Lume even look nearly the same. It looks like it's just a hosted Airbyte instance with GPT generating the SQL/config. Smart for an MVP, not much of a moat for the long term, and it's a shame that software licencing is such a blindspot for so many SV startups.
- mritchie712 4y ago
  I personally wouldn't do this even for an MVP. The product is competitive with Airbyte and they're breaking Airbyte's license. Definitely cases where it's ok to do something similar for an MVP, but I wouldn't touch this product knowing they can't continue to operate it this way (could get shut down at any moment). I'm a bit surprised someone at YC didn't flag this.
  - swyx 4y ago
    for what its worth airbyte's connectors themselves are MIT https://airbyte.com/blog/a-new-license-to-future-proof-the-commoditization-of-data-integration https://airbyte.com/blog/a-new-license-to-future-proof-the-c... arguably this is "much of it" rather than ELv2
  - Nebyou 4y ago
    Thanks for raising this. We share your respect for the intellectual property rights of others. We are aware of Airbyte's license structure and use connectors per its terms.
    - danpalmer 4y ago
      Nice, if the connectors are MIT licenced but you've got your own server, that's great. It might be worth differentiating the product further. Right now, looking at screenshots, it looks like a re-skin. I realise there's only so much you can differentiate an ETL service, and that the LLM feature is the main differentiating factor, but I do worry that it's very close right now.
    - jeanlaf 4y ago
      Hi team! I'm one of the Airbyte co-founders. I think it might be worth chatting regarding the license indeed :). Don't hesitate to reach out to me on our Slack "John (Airbyte)"
- Nebyou 4y ago
  This is not a simply a hosted airbyte instance. We use airbyte's connectors for its common standards and the active community behind them. That being said, our use of the project is both limited, customized, and deeply embedded under our app. We do not use any UI components from Airbyte.