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Sadly china embraced 'modernity' and they literally just used the single worst ideas from urban design and traffic engineering. They went with single use super

Sadly china embraced 'modernity' and they literally just used the single worst ideas from urban design and traffic engineering. They went with single use superblocks connected by highways. A terrible system in so many ways. Thankfully they protected some of the old city centers and those still have the beautiful chinese urbanism. Thankfully, leadership in China has realized that they really fucked up. Sometimes when building the 5 ring road highway that is clogged you start to rethink the problem. Funny enough by turning to Western New Urbanism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqldZhxl86I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqldZhxl86I https://www.efchina.org/Reports-en/report-lccp-20171214-en https://www.efchina.org/Reports-en/report-lccp-20171214-en The book is really interesting, a great set of guidelines for city building. I don't agree with everything but its pretty fantastic.

seoulmetro 4y ago
Single use superblocks? Most Korean/Chinese apartment block regions feature multi-use (without industrial) and do it very well, incorporating commercial slots surrounded by a throng of greenery and apartment blocks for residents, with nearby lower-density, medium-density housing. Got any examples of China? Because Koreans follow density principles extremely well.
- panick21_ 4y ago
  The talk I linked goes into detail. Many Chinese superblocks are not walkable and have no commercial and offices are also in a different place. But its not everywhere. I don't know about Korea, no comment on that.
  - seoulmetro 4y ago
    Interesting. I've seen some videos of the empty apartment blocks with small empty commercial areas below them. Actually, now that I think about it. Korea is actually migrating towards a more Chinese vibe (I call it Americanisation of their planning) where they build the buildings super far apart and make it all way less walkable but still bikeable. The city I refer to that recently disappointed me and is brand new in Korea is Dongtan, take a look if you get a chance. I think Korea has slipped down the slippery slope unfortunately. Either that or they just haven't filled in the lines yet, but I doubt that. It's just more car-centric. Things built 5-10 years ago weren't like this, but then neither was the car status symbol race.

seoulmetro 4y ago

Single use superblocks? Most Korean/Chinese apartment block regions feature multi-use (without industrial) and do it very well, incorporating commercial slots surrounded by a throng of greenery and apartment blocks for residents, with nearby lower-density, medium-density housing. Got any examples of China? Because Koreans follow density principles extremely well.

panick21_ 4y ago
The talk I linked goes into detail. Many Chinese superblocks are not walkable and have no commercial and offices are also in a different place. But its not everywhere. I don't know about Korea, no comment on that.
- seoulmetro 4y ago
  Interesting. I've seen some videos of the empty apartment blocks with small empty commercial areas below them. Actually, now that I think about it. Korea is actually migrating towards a more Chinese vibe (I call it Americanisation of their planning) where they build the buildings super far apart and make it all way less walkable but still bikeable. The city I refer to that recently disappointed me and is brand new in Korea is Dongtan, take a look if you get a chance. I think Korea has slipped down the slippery slope unfortunately. Either that or they just haven't filled in the lines yet, but I doubt that. It's just more car-centric. Things built 5-10 years ago weren't like this, but then neither was the car status symbol race.