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Ryan Dahl's talk reminds me of the time I came back to a forum I created and then neglected after being distracted by university for four years. The forum had

Ryan Dahl's talk reminds me of the time I came back to a forum I created and then neglected after being distracted by university for four years. The forum had taken off while I was MIA. In spite of me being MIA. And while I could write a manifesto about how the forum had gone in a direction I didn't necessarily want, I had to admit that my plans for the forum weren't better nor more correct than the plans that emerged organically from the community over the years. When you create something with a community and ecosystem, it's easy to see the success of the ecosystem and the downstream success of the people within it as your success when in reality you are more like an early collaborator who set the stage for others to join in and take it from there. A good example of this in my case was the hubris that, because I created that one big forum, I could create more successful forums. I never hit gold again. I realized I wasn't some master forum creator, just someone who started something at the right time and the right place with just enough TLC to attract other builders, and that I didn't have some divine insight into how to start a successful forum. Oof.

joshmanders 4y ago
You hit the nail on the head here. This is exactly what's going on.
MrOwnPut 4y ago
The difference in your analogy is he is currently working on an alternative (a good one imo), not only talking about it... His product is currently out there, popular, and already infinitely better than node (imo). I'm sorry you never "hit gold again", but you seem jaded and projecting that onto others. Who cares if it never fully overtakes node? It's a great alternative. Competition is good. I'd consider Deno a success already, it growing in popularity is always nice, but the tech already works.
- joshmanders 4y ago
  > Who cares if it never fully overtakes node? It's a great alternative. Competition is good. I'd say the people who gave them $21M[0] care if it's adoption doesn't take off. [0]: https://deno.com/blog/series-a https://deno.com/blog/series-a
  - MrOwnPut 4y ago
    I didn't say if "adoption doesn't take off" I said "fully overtakes node". Should no other browser be invested in because Chrome has the largest market share? Should no-one ever invest in a competing product? I believe it is up to his investors what the expected growth rate and market share is.
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joshmanders 4y ago

You hit the nail on the head here. This is exactly what's going on.

MrOwnPut 4y ago

The difference in your analogy is he is currently working on an alternative (a good one imo), not only talking about it... His product is currently out there, popular, and already infinitely better than node (imo). I'm sorry you never "hit gold again", but you seem jaded and projecting that onto others. Who cares if it never fully overtakes node? It's a great alternative. Competition is good. I'd consider Deno a success already, it growing in popularity is always nice, but the tech already works.

joshmanders 4y ago
> Who cares if it never fully overtakes node? It's a great alternative. Competition is good. I'd say the people who gave them $21M[0] care if it's adoption doesn't take off. [0]: https://deno.com/blog/series-a https://deno.com/blog/series-a
- MrOwnPut 4y ago
  I didn't say if "adoption doesn't take off" I said "fully overtakes node". Should no other browser be invested in because Chrome has the largest market share? Should no-one ever invest in a competing product? I believe it is up to his investors what the expected growth rate and market share is.
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