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I don't really quibble with the idea that marriage (can) work well. What I have a problem with is the suggestion that somehow the so-called "elite" opinion that
by nathan_compton 4y ago
I don't really quibble with the idea that marriage (can) work well. What I have a problem with is the suggestion that somehow the so-called "elite" opinion that social relations like marriage should be more flexible
1. constitutes a denigration of the institution
2. actually materially causes the decline in marriage rates we see, especially among the economically exploited.
Poverty causes significant stress on couples which almost certainly explains the differences between the marriage rates of different classes in our society. I'm pretty sure that people having kids out of wedlock aren't doing it because they read about it in GOOP or whatever. In fact, further down this thread someone has posted a survey which suggests that people more likely to get divorced actually have a stronger belief in marriage than people less likely to. This suggests strongly that it isn't the opinions of the upper classes that actually cause divorces and points to other economic causes.
- rayiner 4y ago> Poverty causes significant stress on couples which almost certainly explains the differences between the marriage rates of different classes in our society. Except this gap is new. In 1979, marriage rates in the top four income quintiles were quite similar: https://www.brookings.edu/research/middle-class-marriage-is-declining-and-likely-deepening-inequality/ https://www.brookings.edu/research/middle-class-marriage-is-...
- random314 4y ago1979 was the year before trickle down Reagan became president. It's been awhile.
- nathan_compton 4y agoThere have been major changes in the US economy since 1979.
- rayiner 4y agoThat wouldn’t explain why you didn’t see any significant change in marriage rates across the top four income quantiles in 1979. It’s not like the gaps were insignificant back then: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&sxsrf=AJOqlzUFjEFqXcdoTdUfQQV4Pv7UnbCf3Q:1679327727333&q=real+median+income+by+quintile+1979&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjBmJil7-r9AhU2FFkFHTlGCLwQ0pQJegQICxAB&biw=390&bih=664&dpr=3#imgrc=424stvO35FDZPM&lnspr=W10= https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&hl=en-us&sxsrf=A...