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>> Do those who have over 500 karma points, any better at remaining objective when they consider down voting a post? Understand your point, but ease of which a
by O__________O 4y ago
>> Do those who have over 500 karma points, any better at remaining objective when they consider down voting a post?
Understand your point, but ease of which abusing the system is to simple. I could easily automate creating 100s of accounts a week with a rep of 31, which is all that’s required to flag — and anyone that understands how flagging could even do this manually, if motivated. Gaining 500 rep though per account would take 16x the related rep.
Realistically only measure of skill at flagging is skill at flagging; aka there should be a reputation system for flagging alone and any abuse of it should result in a ban for access to flagging or reviewing flags.
>> but it takes time to deal with the BS - actually it's a real time cost.
100% agree, but then don’t claim HN is community base on the spirit of curiosity, open reasoning, etc. Further, I don’t believe for a second that if Dang requested help creating open source moderation tools that were able to be integrated into YC’s legacy code that community would not help or be reasonably, if forced to do so publicly.
>> Actually for the last week I've been following flagged and dead posts
Not aware of any way to see 100% of these without writing code to interface with API, am I missing something?
- anenefan 4y agoIt's in your profile settings. Only found it myself 10 days ago or so. I thought from the very start I was seeing dead submissions and comments but I must have been mistaken.
- O__________O 4y agoUnderstand, specifically “show dead” — but that’s not a list of ONLY flagged comments or ONLY flagged submissions — nor is it from those lists easy to get context of why they’re flagged or easy to vouch to unflagged them; to unflagged item, click its related timestamp, then click “vouch” on the items sub-navigation.
- anenefan 4y agoOh, in regard to a list of dead or flagged only, that's what I would guess HN staff have access to. I have to push back a great number of pages and do each individually. Some are not worth digging as the reason is pretty obvious. Might seem like complete boredom or madness, but I used to have a keen interest in forum dynamics, spent a bit of time in a flame war discussion forum for a few years, where members might post sightings of certain behaviours etc.
- O__________O 4y agoI too have interest in dynamics of communities. Also my position that it’s healthy to expect community members to understand the economics, behavioral aspects, etc of community. For example, while I don’t likely do it as much as I should, I do intentionally try to review Dang’s public comment logs from his profile to remember how much work he puts in, better understand his take, etc. If you’re interested, numerous books of Amazon on topic, for example: - https://www.amazon.com/Art-Community-Seven-Principles-Belonging/dp/1626568413/ https://www.amazon.com/Art-Community-Seven-Principles-Belong... Honestly, reason I posted about this is because ever once in a while I get stuff flagged, but even trying to have open minded about it, I have no idea why it was flagged and in my experience Dang’s response is neither does he.