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I'm sorry, but am I the only one wondering about the ... tone of dhh's response? I mean, "fucking scumbags", is he like 14? He has every right to be upset, but

I'm sorry, but am I the only one wondering about the ... tone of dhh's response? I mean, "fucking scumbags", is he like 14? He has every right to be upset, but the choice of words are in no way helpful. just saying..

ceejayoz 15y ago
I think anyone wondering about dhh's tone hasn't followed him on Twitter for long.
- derwildemomo 15y ago
  unfollowed him a long long time ago ( but i can still remember. )
thirdsun 15y ago
Exactly, This doesn't make him look very good. Beside the rude language, this isn't something grown-ups need to settle publicly via twitter. Very immature.
- abjr 15y ago
  Agreed. Not that it matters much, but I just took Rework out of my wish list on Amazon. Reading his tweets in response to this has totally turned me off to 37Signals.
ceol 15y ago
DHH is well-known for being... crude, for lack of a nicer word. He's a guy who revels in the fact that he's arrogant.
- sofuture 15y ago
  Why do we tolerate this behavior from people in our 'community' (or anyone really)? It's comically childish and infuriating to see it get a pass because 'oh, that's just their thing'.
  - aaronblohowiak 15y ago
    We have no leverage AND intolerance is the only thing that is socially acceptable to correct.
kingsidharth 15y ago
So this is "Swearing is F*cking Insane" debate on HN all over again? I think we talked about this before.
jsavimbi 15y ago
Are you offended by the tone? What would you call a person who steals your ideas (no value), steals your work ($$$), steals your bandwidth (~$), passes it all off as their own and then brags about raising money, a venture which was probably aided in no small from the theft? And when caught redhanded, further insults you by offering you credit for your work? What would you call that person? I call those people scumbags.
- earbitscom 15y ago
  The Pirate Bay
- jasonlotito 15y ago
  They didn't steal anything. I thought we've discussed this enough already, what with RIAA/MPAA's attempts to redefine copyright infringement as thievery. Hell, they didn't even steal bandwidth. Linking is not theft. It might be something else, but it's not stealing. That, more than anything, pisses me off about this. That somehow the RIAA is wrong when it calls people infringing it's copyright thieves, but when it's one of our own getting hurt, we hang the culprits out to dry. Call them scumbags. Get all indignant and tweet about it to your followers and whine to the 'interwebz.' But at least have the courtesy to be truthful and accurate. Otherwise, your just a scummy.
  - jsavimbi 15y ago
    My apologies, I did not realize that they either received permission from or licensed design, code and image hosting from 37signals. Or maybe I just choose to ignore your pathetic misdirection and call things as I see them, which couldn't be more obvious to the eye. Because that's what a retraction of the work and the (forced) composition of a public apology are all about.
    - jasonlotito 15y ago
      > Or maybe I just choose to ignore your pathetic misdirection and call things as I see them, I'm sorry. Maybe you could point to me where 37Signals no longer has what was stolen? I also applaud your open commitment in support of redefining copyright infringement as thievery. Let me know how that works out for you. Finally, you should avoid baseless insults. It makes you appear stupid and detracts from what you are attempting to say. Throwing around insults like you do hurts the quality of HN. Maybe that's what you want, but I'd prefer to keep things accurate and intelligent.
rimantas 15y ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lnSByCb8lqY#t=70s http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v...

ceejayoz 15y ago

I think anyone wondering about dhh's tone hasn't followed him on Twitter for long.

derwildemomo 15y ago
unfollowed him a long long time ago ( but i can still remember. )

thirdsun 15y ago

Exactly, This doesn't make him look very good. Beside the rude language, this isn't something grown-ups need to settle publicly via twitter. Very immature.

abjr 15y ago
Agreed. Not that it matters much, but I just took Rework out of my wish list on Amazon. Reading his tweets in response to this has totally turned me off to 37Signals.

ceol 15y ago

DHH is well-known for being... crude, for lack of a nicer word. He's a guy who revels in the fact that he's arrogant.

sofuture 15y ago
Why do we tolerate this behavior from people in our 'community' (or anyone really)? It's comically childish and infuriating to see it get a pass because 'oh, that's just their thing'.
- aaronblohowiak 15y ago
  We have no leverage AND intolerance is the only thing that is socially acceptable to correct.

kingsidharth 15y ago

So this is "Swearing is F*cking Insane" debate on HN all over again? I think we talked about this before.

jsavimbi 15y ago

Are you offended by the tone? What would you call a person who steals your ideas (no value), steals your work ($$$), steals your bandwidth (~$), passes it all off as their own and then brags about raising money, a venture which was probably aided in no small from the theft? And when caught redhanded, further insults you by offering you credit for your work? What would you call that person? I call those people scumbags.

earbitscom 15y ago
The Pirate Bay
jasonlotito 15y ago
They didn't steal anything. I thought we've discussed this enough already, what with RIAA/MPAA's attempts to redefine copyright infringement as thievery. Hell, they didn't even steal bandwidth. Linking is not theft. It might be something else, but it's not stealing. That, more than anything, pisses me off about this. That somehow the RIAA is wrong when it calls people infringing it's copyright thieves, but when it's one of our own getting hurt, we hang the culprits out to dry. Call them scumbags. Get all indignant and tweet about it to your followers and whine to the 'interwebz.' But at least have the courtesy to be truthful and accurate. Otherwise, your just a scummy.
- jsavimbi 15y ago
  My apologies, I did not realize that they either received permission from or licensed design, code and image hosting from 37signals. Or maybe I just choose to ignore your pathetic misdirection and call things as I see them, which couldn't be more obvious to the eye. Because that's what a retraction of the work and the (forced) composition of a public apology are all about.
  - jasonlotito 15y ago
    > Or maybe I just choose to ignore your pathetic misdirection and call things as I see them, I'm sorry. Maybe you could point to me where 37Signals no longer has what was stolen? I also applaud your open commitment in support of redefining copyright infringement as thievery. Let me know how that works out for you. Finally, you should avoid baseless insults. It makes you appear stupid and detracts from what you are attempting to say. Throwing around insults like you do hurts the quality of HN. Maybe that's what you want, but I'd prefer to keep things accurate and intelligent.

rimantas 15y ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lnSByCb8lqY#t=70s http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v...