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I included at least 10 different items that you could have chosen as hobbies for a reason. Look, you're in the position you are because you don't like people.

I included at least 10 different items that you could have chosen as hobbies for a reason. Look, you're in the position you are because you don't like people. Just stop pretending like you actually want something to do socially. You don't. That's why you're here whinging about a conspiracy of a lost "third place". You left every group in the first place on your own. You are antisocial, and you don't want to live life any other way. > Like you said, there are a million things: every one of them has an intentional purpose: a predetermined subject. Every one of them has the potential for meeting people, but "meeting people" is not the point! It literally is the single point. > Exactly. Here we stand in a world where most people (including you) are only willing to listen to the people from their chosen social groups. We can't even talk to each other without first sorting ourselves into categories of interest! Narrative building and a weird diatribe, groups have always self sorted. > This is the failure of church: unification by demand. One narrative to rule them all; but in reality, competing with many other narratives. Why must we join a team in the first place? It's it really that hard to just talk to each other? This isn't a discussion, once again. This is you inventing a problem.

thomastjeffery 4y ago
You are making this whole thing incredibly personal. I'm not even talking about myself! I'm taking about interpersonal societal behaviors. You are making all kinds of accusations about my own personal behavior. That's not what I'm talking about, either! Just because I don't go to church doesn't mean I'm "antisocial". I have friends, I interact in groups, and I'm literally writing an HN comment right now. My entire point is that none of that is the "third place". > groups have always self sorted. That is precisely when they move from the "third place" to the "second place": when they become explicit "groups". > This isn't a discussion, once again. This is you inventing a problem. One again, this is you refusing to just have a conversation. You are so intent on criticizing me, so that you can win some vain competition, that you have completely missed what I am talking about in the first place. If you can't find it in your worldview, it must not exist, or it must be a mistake. Why must there be judgement? Why must there be a winner? Not every idea fits into a narrative of competition.
- latency-guy2 4y ago
  > You are making all kinds of accusations about my own personal behavior. That's not what I'm talking about, either! Just because I don't go to church doesn't mean I'm "antisocial". I have friends, I interact in groups, and I'm literally writing an HN comment right now. My entire point is that none of that is the "third place". OK, seems like you're still pissed about the church comment, don't go to church then, I forgive your sins, athiest. > That is precisely when they move from the "third place" to the "second place": when they become explicit "groups". Even the reddit comment you stole this idea from tells you explicitly what "first", "second", and "third" place means. You are not correct. > One again, this is you refusing to just have a conversation. You are presenting an idea as if it's correct, whether it has any bearing in reality, you are presuming as if somehow, everyone must accept your idea as if it is a fact. This really isn't a conversation, you don't want this to be a conversation either. > You are so intent on criticizing me, so that you can win some vain competition, that you have completely missed what I am talking about in the first place. If you can't find it in your worldview, it must not exist, or it must be a mistake. Pot, kettle, whatever. > Why must there be judgement? Why must there be a winner? Not every idea fits into a narrative of competition. Yeah, sure buddy. > You are making this whole thing incredibly personal. I'm not even talking about myself! I'm taking about interpersonal societal behaviors. I will make things as personal or as impersonal as I want, that has no bearing on how others perceive it. Clearly, if you are so affected by my statements, then the literal "you" aligns almost exactly with the metaphorical "you" as I used. This isn't debate club and I have no intention on treating it as if it were.
  - thomastjeffery 4y ago
    On the off chance you see this reply, I would be interested to see what Reddit comment you have in mind.

thomastjeffery 4y ago

You are making this whole thing incredibly personal. I'm not even talking about myself! I'm taking about interpersonal societal behaviors. You are making all kinds of accusations about my own personal behavior. That's not what I'm talking about, either! Just because I don't go to church doesn't mean I'm "antisocial". I have friends, I interact in groups, and I'm literally writing an HN comment right now. My entire point is that none of that is the "third place". > groups have always self sorted. That is precisely when they move from the "third place" to the "second place": when they become explicit "groups". > This isn't a discussion, once again. This is you inventing a problem. One again, this is you refusing to just have a conversation. You are so intent on criticizing me, so that you can win some vain competition, that you have completely missed what I am talking about in the first place. If you can't find it in your worldview, it must not exist, or it must be a mistake. Why must there be judgement? Why must there be a winner? Not every idea fits into a narrative of competition.

latency-guy2 4y ago
> You are making all kinds of accusations about my own personal behavior. That's not what I'm talking about, either! Just because I don't go to church doesn't mean I'm "antisocial". I have friends, I interact in groups, and I'm literally writing an HN comment right now. My entire point is that none of that is the "third place". OK, seems like you're still pissed about the church comment, don't go to church then, I forgive your sins, athiest. > That is precisely when they move from the "third place" to the "second place": when they become explicit "groups". Even the reddit comment you stole this idea from tells you explicitly what "first", "second", and "third" place means. You are not correct. > One again, this is you refusing to just have a conversation. You are presenting an idea as if it's correct, whether it has any bearing in reality, you are presuming as if somehow, everyone must accept your idea as if it is a fact. This really isn't a conversation, you don't want this to be a conversation either. > You are so intent on criticizing me, so that you can win some vain competition, that you have completely missed what I am talking about in the first place. If you can't find it in your worldview, it must not exist, or it must be a mistake. Pot, kettle, whatever. > Why must there be judgement? Why must there be a winner? Not every idea fits into a narrative of competition. Yeah, sure buddy. > You are making this whole thing incredibly personal. I'm not even talking about myself! I'm taking about interpersonal societal behaviors. I will make things as personal or as impersonal as I want, that has no bearing on how others perceive it. Clearly, if you are so affected by my statements, then the literal "you" aligns almost exactly with the metaphorical "you" as I used. This isn't debate club and I have no intention on treating it as if it were.
- thomastjeffery 4y ago
  On the off chance you see this reply, I would be interested to see what Reddit comment you have in mind.