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Desperate for more male nurses, teachers and cleaners

2 points by hunglee2 4y ago

bell-cot 4y ago
> Is feminism only about getting more women into powerful positions? More female CEOs, presidents, ministers, bankers… more women into STEM jobs... Roughly, yes. But note that the obviously-not-democratically elected "leadership" of feminism is very slanted toward the well-born, highly-educated, upwardly-mobile ~1% of women. And they are focused on a sad blend of looking out for #1 and ideological one-ups[wo]manship. Jane Average is pretty much on her own, and Ivy Ill-Educated "might be better suited" to slave-wage domestic work. (No, I don't think the "top 1%" of men is any better. But fables of their selfless and virtuous leadership are sufficiently well debunked, these days, that few beyond the young, the dim, and the self-delusional still believe them.)
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jleyank 4y ago
Given the sturm and drang over subject matter in places like the us, why would somebody go into teaching if they had a safer alternative? And certainly, why would they go into teaching in the contentious areas? Is there a clerical career field left, or did the pink collar stuff die off around the turn of the century? I’ve not seen assistants outside the head shed since then. What is the gender ratio of paramedics, as that’s somewhat analogous to nurses with more exertion and haste? And, why would people stop at nursing if they had the time and money to proceed further into healthcare? Perhaps the gender ratio of nurses results from that of childcare, as it’s a “”serious” field that can be fit into the gaps from raising kids.
- bell-cot 4y ago
  From what I heard, from older women (American public school) teachers I knew ~10 years ago (pre-COVID, pre-MAGA) - going into teaching was not something that they would do again.
prirun 4y ago
I believe there is a shortage of nurses in general, likely because of the crazy hours and not-that-great pay. I asked a nurse recently if she liked her job. She said she did, but she made more money when she worked as a barkeep.

2 points by hunglee2 4y ago

> Is feminism only about getting more women into powerful positions? More female CEOs, presidents, ministers, bankers… more women into STEM jobs... Roughly, yes. But note that the obviously-not-democratically elected "leadership" of feminism is very slanted toward the well-born, highly-educated, upwardly-mobile ~1% of women. And they are focused on a sad blend of looking out for #1 and ideological one-ups[wo]manship. Jane Average is pretty much on her own, and Ivy Ill-Educated "might be better suited" to slave-wage domestic work. (No, I don't think the "top 1%" of men is any better. But fables of their selfless and virtuous leadership are sufficiently well debunked, these days, that few beyond the young, the dim, and the self-delusional still believe them.)

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jleyank 4y ago

Given the sturm and drang over subject matter in places like the us, why would somebody go into teaching if they had a safer alternative? And certainly, why would they go into teaching in the contentious areas? Is there a clerical career field left, or did the pink collar stuff die off around the turn of the century? I’ve not seen assistants outside the head shed since then. What is the gender ratio of paramedics, as that’s somewhat analogous to nurses with more exertion and haste? And, why would people stop at nursing if they had the time and money to proceed further into healthcare? Perhaps the gender ratio of nurses results from that of childcare, as it’s a “”serious” field that can be fit into the gaps from raising kids.

bell-cot 4y ago
From what I heard, from older women (American public school) teachers I knew ~10 years ago (pre-COVID, pre-MAGA) - going into teaching was not something that they would do again.

prirun 4y ago

I believe there is a shortage of nurses in general, likely because of the crazy hours and not-that-great pay. I asked a nurse recently if she liked her job. She said she did, but she made more money when she worked as a barkeep.