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Interesting to note that bread in the US tends to have a significantly higher sugar content than in Europe, as much as 13g per 100g.

quickthrower2 4y ago
Yeah you have to be picky and go for keto branded options to find 4% carb bread
- brnt 4y ago
  Well, they were talking about (added) sugar, not carbs in general. How can you have bread without carbohydrates? What is it made of then?
  - bdcravens 4y ago
    It usually is made of almond or coconut flour. Most "keto" bread isn't devoid of carbs, but often has a lot of dietary fiber, which is undigestable.
    - quietbritishjim 4y ago
      Almond and coconut flour are likely to have more (natural) sugar in than wheat flour. Bread made with coconut flour in particular is surely going to have more total sugar than regular bread with a little added sugar. A more reasonable explanation is that the comment that triggered this discussion was just from someone who used the wrong word by accident or totally misunderstands what carbs are.
      - andy_ppp 4y ago
        The gut doesn't absorb sugar as well in the presence of fibre so I think people tend to subtract the amount of fibre from the total carbs to come up with something called net-carbs. No idea how well this works in practice of course but there is definitely some high percentage of sugar not absorbed for every gram of fibre added.
    - dghughes 4y ago
      I'd say at that point just give up on eating bread. Something bread-shaped and fluffy could be made of anything.
  - heftig 4y ago
    Maybe making "bread" which is almost entirely cellulose would be possible. Still a carbohydrate, but not a digestible one.
    - indymike 4y ago
      This is what most keto breads are. Source: the two loafs in my bread drawer that report 23g of carbs and 19g dietary fiber. Some of that 19g is cellulose.
      - Xenoamorphous 4y ago
        And how’s the taste in those?
        indymike 4y ago
        It varies by brand and type. Some are pretty bad. Aunt Millie's has a couple of really good ones, particularly their 5 seed and white. Aldi's white keto is good, too. Lewis has a good keto Hawaiian loaf. For whatever reason the keto wheat breads I've tried are a little too... woody for me. I'm not sure if they are available outside the Midwest. To be honest, I'm really happy keto bread exists because for about two years, I couldn't eat sandwiches (I have to eat less than 50g of non-fiber carbohydrate per day... so just the bread on a sandwich usually takes 90% + of that).
  - quickthrower2 4y ago
    Sorry brain fart there! Anyway now I have changed the subject here is an example https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/164022 https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/164022
BoorishBears 4y ago
I'm convinced this meme persists because tourists trying to save a dollar get the absolute dirt cheapest bread they can find in some random gas station, that no normal person would eat unless they were dying. 13g of sugar is absurd and is not normal bread in the US. Even Bimbo, the poster child for "cheap nutrition-less imitation bread" caps out at 4g
- INTPenis 4y ago
  Yeah I was just going to say that even in Sweden there is sweeter bread. I just get the bread that is in the range of 4-7 grams so I spoke from personal experience. It ranges from 3-10 grams iirc. Maybe even higher. Let people get unhealthy food, that's not what we need to focus on, we need to focus on proper and correct labels on food so people can make an informed decision.
- switch007 4y ago
  To be fair, they did say 'as much as'. First cheap looking bread I found at Wallmart at $1.32, just over 4g sugar/100g https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-White-Sandwich-Bread-20-oz/10315752?athbdg=L1200 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-White-Sandwich-Bread-... Another one, but with honey added, 8g sugar/100g https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nature-s-Own-Honey-Wheat-Sandwich-Bread-Loaf-20-oz/10450000 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nature-s-Own-Honey-Wheat-Sandwich... The closest I found was Cinnamon Bread, with 15.7g sugar/100g, which is expected as it's basically a dessert (though oddly, they list all of the sugar as added sugar ! What are those raisins made of??) https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cinnabon-Cinnamon-Bread-Bakery-Inspired-Sliced-Bread-with-Cinnamon-Bursts-16-oz-Loaf/864702169 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cinnabon-Cinnamon-Bread-Bakery-In...
  - AlecSchueler 4y ago
    And, to be fair again, you can buy comparable bread in Europe. Here's a Dutch raisin bread with 23.2 g: https://www.jumbo.com/producten/goudeerlijk-rozijnenbrood-half-304655STK https://www.jumbo.com/producten/goudeerlijk-rozijnenbrood-ha...
    - 4y ago

quickthrower2 4y ago

Yeah you have to be picky and go for keto branded options to find 4% carb bread

brnt 4y ago
Well, they were talking about (added) sugar, not carbs in general. How can you have bread without carbohydrates? What is it made of then?
- bdcravens 4y ago
  It usually is made of almond or coconut flour. Most "keto" bread isn't devoid of carbs, but often has a lot of dietary fiber, which is undigestable.
  - quietbritishjim 4y ago
    Almond and coconut flour are likely to have more (natural) sugar in than wheat flour. Bread made with coconut flour in particular is surely going to have more total sugar than regular bread with a little added sugar. A more reasonable explanation is that the comment that triggered this discussion was just from someone who used the wrong word by accident or totally misunderstands what carbs are.
    - andy_ppp 4y ago
      The gut doesn't absorb sugar as well in the presence of fibre so I think people tend to subtract the amount of fibre from the total carbs to come up with something called net-carbs. No idea how well this works in practice of course but there is definitely some high percentage of sugar not absorbed for every gram of fibre added.
  - dghughes 4y ago
    I'd say at that point just give up on eating bread. Something bread-shaped and fluffy could be made of anything.
- heftig 4y ago
  Maybe making "bread" which is almost entirely cellulose would be possible. Still a carbohydrate, but not a digestible one.
  - indymike 4y ago
    This is what most keto breads are. Source: the two loafs in my bread drawer that report 23g of carbs and 19g dietary fiber. Some of that 19g is cellulose.
    - Xenoamorphous 4y ago
      And how’s the taste in those?
      - indymike 4y ago
        It varies by brand and type. Some are pretty bad. Aunt Millie's has a couple of really good ones, particularly their 5 seed and white. Aldi's white keto is good, too. Lewis has a good keto Hawaiian loaf. For whatever reason the keto wheat breads I've tried are a little too... woody for me. I'm not sure if they are available outside the Midwest. To be honest, I'm really happy keto bread exists because for about two years, I couldn't eat sandwiches (I have to eat less than 50g of non-fiber carbohydrate per day... so just the bread on a sandwich usually takes 90% + of that).
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Sorry brain fart there! Anyway now I have changed the subject here is an example https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/164022 https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/productdetails/164022

BoorishBears 4y ago

I'm convinced this meme persists because tourists trying to save a dollar get the absolute dirt cheapest bread they can find in some random gas station, that no normal person would eat unless they were dying. 13g of sugar is absurd and is not normal bread in the US. Even Bimbo, the poster child for "cheap nutrition-less imitation bread" caps out at 4g

INTPenis 4y ago
Yeah I was just going to say that even in Sweden there is sweeter bread. I just get the bread that is in the range of 4-7 grams so I spoke from personal experience. It ranges from 3-10 grams iirc. Maybe even higher. Let people get unhealthy food, that's not what we need to focus on, we need to focus on proper and correct labels on food so people can make an informed decision.
switch007 4y ago
To be fair, they did say 'as much as'. First cheap looking bread I found at Wallmart at $1.32, just over 4g sugar/100g https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-White-Sandwich-Bread-20-oz/10315752?athbdg=L1200 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Great-Value-White-Sandwich-Bread-... Another one, but with honey added, 8g sugar/100g https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nature-s-Own-Honey-Wheat-Sandwich-Bread-Loaf-20-oz/10450000 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nature-s-Own-Honey-Wheat-Sandwich... The closest I found was Cinnamon Bread, with 15.7g sugar/100g, which is expected as it's basically a dessert (though oddly, they list all of the sugar as added sugar ! What are those raisins made of??) https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cinnabon-Cinnamon-Bread-Bakery-Inspired-Sliced-Bread-with-Cinnamon-Bursts-16-oz-Loaf/864702169 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Cinnabon-Cinnamon-Bread-Bakery-In...
- AlecSchueler 4y ago
  And, to be fair again, you can buy comparable bread in Europe. Here's a Dutch raisin bread with 23.2 g: https://www.jumbo.com/producten/goudeerlijk-rozijnenbrood-half-304655STK https://www.jumbo.com/producten/goudeerlijk-rozijnenbrood-ha...
  - 4y ago