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The point of the person you're replying to is that celebrating this pretty much falls into the naive optimism category. The Paris accord of 2015 comes to mind:
by cmehdy 4y ago
The point of the person you're replying to is that celebrating this pretty much falls into the naive optimism category. The Paris accord of 2015 comes to mind: the largest emitter by capita withdrawed within a few years (amongst other things, since few did really follow it fully) and nearly a decade later all predictions look pretty depressing. It was celebrated out of hope, but perhaps people need more concrete results before being happy now.
- ethbr0 4y ago> The Paris accord of 2015 comes to mind: the largest emitter by capita withdrawed within a few years Which emitter would that be? Because if you're talking about the US, it withdrew for ~3 months (11/04/2020 - 1/20/2021). If agreements are negotiated to be that resistant to national politics, that seems like a design win.
- throwawaylinux 4y agoRight. In 2015, peak coal was behind us. The naive optimists thought "it's all down hill from here". A "global accord" has been reached, so all that's left to do is slap together a few windmills, some solar panels, stop mining coal or drilling oil and gas, and problem solved. Today, somehow, peak coal is in front of us again and emissions promises have been revealed as flimsy half-truths that are gamed and lied about as part of domestic and international power struggles and political maneuvering, to the absolute shock and surprise of nobody who has paid the slightest attention to the behavior and trustworthiness of politicians and bureaucrats and their corporate masters at any time in the past 50+ years.