> More seriously, one good reason to require reasonable record retention in big companies, is that if multiple employees at a company collude, they can do irrep

> More seriously, one good reason to require reasonable record retention in big companies, is that if multiple employees at a company collude, they can do irreparable harm to others in a way that a single individual cannot. This doesn't really address my concern. Why is it different to have a phone call or sitting in a meeting room, or a zoom meeting (with no recording) and doing the same thing vs doing it in chat that does not record? Why is using snapchat as a company consider "evasive" and is punishable? We're saying our freedom to have an unrecordable chat is worth giving up. A really similar fight is the encryption backdoors for chat.