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>> it's simply not healthy for most people to go without any animal products in their diets > Please cite a neutral source on the matter. I did. American Die
by myshpa 4y ago
>> it's simply not healthy for most people to go without any animal products in their diets
> Please cite a neutral source on the matter.
I did.
American Dietetic Association
It is the position of the American Dietetic Association that appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence, and for athletes.
NHS UK
A vegetarian or vegan diet can be suitable for everyone, regardless of their age.
British Dietetic Association.
It is possible to follow a well-planned, plant-based, vegan friendly diet that supports healthy living in people of all ages ...
World Health Organisation
For adults, protein from two or more plant groups daily is like to be adequate. For children, however, and especially those aged 6-24 months, each meal should contain wherever possible two complementary sources of plant protein
> In the end, the food you buy, clothes you wear, even the computer
We have to choose our battles.
> That only applies to a developed economy
Yes, I'm talking about western economies. No point talking about Ethiopia, for example. [1]
> we have been able to feed the large populations of the US and Europe without destroying local environments
Have you read about soil degradation [0] or that animal agriculture is leading driver behind tropical deforestation ? What's the point in celebrating of "saving" of local environments, when we're destroying rainforests in the process?
> no individual responsibility, as I said, will change what the mass of society will do
Yesterday I was clever, and wanted to change the world. Today I'm wise, so I'm changing myself. Or something along the lines ... No, one individual can't. But many together can. And that was my point.
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/daphneewingchow/2020/06/24/earths-rapidly-degrading-soil-is-bad-news-for-human-health/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/daphneewingchow/2020/06/24/eart...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_consumption https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_meat_cons...
- Auracle 4y agoMost people with omnivorous diets are pretty far from eating healthy, balanced diets. You expect them to be able to follow "appropriately planned" vegan and vegetarian diets? In no world would I risk my daughter growing up nutritionally deficient because I didn't get the right supplements or yeast paste or whatever. It's far easier to give her a balanced diet and not worry.
- myshpa 4y ago> In no world would I risk my daughter growing up nutritionally deficient Start yourself, learn and experiment. It's not so hard. But I warn you, it's addictive ;) > because I didn't get the right supplements or yeast paste or whatever Just B12 is necessary, either as supplements (vegan are also available) or in fortified foods. Also don't do junk food/raw version of veganism. Other than that ... variety is the answer. What to replace meat with? Try a search engine: https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=how%20to%20replace%20meat%20on%20vegan%20diet https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=how%20to%20replace%20meat... https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=how%20to%20veganize%20recipes https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=how%20to%20veganize%20rec... https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%3Cmy%20favourite%20recipe%3E%20vegan https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=%3Cmy%20favourite%20recip...
- freilanzer 4y ago> Start yourself, learn and experiment. It's not so hard. But I warn you, it's addictive ;) It's a complex and a time-consuming activity. My ex was vegan and buying groceries was not easy.
- myshpa 4y agoIt gets better every year.