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Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being u

Most likely, yes. Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse and many client apps blacklist those instances that gain momentum from being usable in the client app. For example, Gab.

nforgerit 4y ago
Do you have a link to the instance(s) that were blacklisted you're referring to?
- malf 4y ago
  The blacklist is visible on the about page of each instance. Feel free to go sample a few. The first one I tried had literal swastikas in the user name of the first post. It went downhill from there.
irq 4y ago
> Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse I find this happens most often to people with a worldview that is objectively incompatible with civilization.
- PixyMisa 4y ago
  Evidenced by the fact that they disagree with the progressive orthodoxy of the moment.
- numpad0 4y ago
  I find this to happen between groups of instances which audiences has different stamps on the front cover of passports. In case that is going to turn out to correlate with “worldview[s] that [are] objectively incompatible with [the other] civilization”, … what could it mean …
- ModernMech 4y ago
  They are more than welcome to spew their incompatible worldview on Twitter. I don’t understand why anyone would be upset they don’t feel welcome on Mastodon; they got everything they wanted on Twitter from Musk.
- LudwigNagasena 4y ago
  Civilizations were built on slavery, imperialism, xenophobia, exploitation, theft, appropriation and intolerance.
kuschku 4y ago
Isn't that the free market you want? You can build your own client (even by forking!) if you disagree.
jeroenhd 4y ago
In my experience, the blacklists are all pretty sensible. Mostly porn, neonazis, that kind of stuff. I haven't opened Gab in a while so I just loaded the front page, and I can see why Mastodon moderators don't want to deal with them either. The content is not as blatantly illegal as many other blacklisted sites, but the front page is incredibly toxic and hateful. I would block most of those posts if they woulf ever hit my personal instance. Feel free to join (or set up) an instance that doesn't employ blacklists, though. The default Mastodon configuration comes with an empty blacklist so I'm sure there are servers out there that will let you access Gab and other blacklisted servers if you wish. However, other servers are allowed to block you or your server at their digression if you're boosting or posting content they don't care for. After all, freedom of speech does not imply any obligation to be heard.
- redeeman 4y ago
  its kinda easy to be labelled neonazi these days
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    Perhaps, but the people I'm referring to actually promote the idea that Jews deserve to be killed for being Jews.
  - M2Ys4U 4y ago
    There are a lot of neonazis around these days...
  - hagbarth 4y ago
    Is it? Hasn't been a problem for me.
    - realjhol 4y ago
      That's because you're not in the "basket of deplorables"
      - 4y ago
Lutger 4y ago
This is incorrect. With some charity, you could say Gab has a different worldview. However, there are also people who think sex with children is ok. That is also technically 'a different worldview'. You see, there is a reason Gab has been cut off, and it is not just that he has a different worldview. If you don't list the specific reason, you distort the most important part of this particular moderation. I noticed this is a fairly common myth in what seems like a right-wing frame of 'progressive politics trying to limit freedom of speech'.

nforgerit 4y ago

Do you have a link to the instance(s) that were blacklisted you're referring to?

malf 4y ago
The blacklist is visible on the about page of each instance. Feel free to go sample a few. The first one I tried had literal swastikas in the user name of the first post. It went downhill from there.

irq 4y ago

> Those with a different worldview are cut off from the fediverse I find this happens most often to people with a worldview that is objectively incompatible with civilization.

PixyMisa 4y ago
Evidenced by the fact that they disagree with the progressive orthodoxy of the moment.
numpad0 4y ago
I find this to happen between groups of instances which audiences has different stamps on the front cover of passports. In case that is going to turn out to correlate with “worldview[s] that [are] objectively incompatible with [the other] civilization”, … what could it mean …
ModernMech 4y ago
They are more than welcome to spew their incompatible worldview on Twitter. I don’t understand why anyone would be upset they don’t feel welcome on Mastodon; they got everything they wanted on Twitter from Musk.
LudwigNagasena 4y ago
Civilizations were built on slavery, imperialism, xenophobia, exploitation, theft, appropriation and intolerance.

kuschku 4y ago

Isn't that the free market you want? You can build your own client (even by forking!) if you disagree.

jeroenhd 4y ago

In my experience, the blacklists are all pretty sensible. Mostly porn, neonazis, that kind of stuff. I haven't opened Gab in a while so I just loaded the front page, and I can see why Mastodon moderators don't want to deal with them either. The content is not as blatantly illegal as many other blacklisted sites, but the front page is incredibly toxic and hateful. I would block most of those posts if they woulf ever hit my personal instance. Feel free to join (or set up) an instance that doesn't employ blacklists, though. The default Mastodon configuration comes with an empty blacklist so I'm sure there are servers out there that will let you access Gab and other blacklisted servers if you wish. However, other servers are allowed to block you or your server at their digression if you're boosting or posting content they don't care for. After all, freedom of speech does not imply any obligation to be heard.

redeeman 4y ago
its kinda easy to be labelled neonazi these days
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  Perhaps, but the people I'm referring to actually promote the idea that Jews deserve to be killed for being Jews.
- M2Ys4U 4y ago
  There are a lot of neonazis around these days...
- hagbarth 4y ago
  Is it? Hasn't been a problem for me.
  - realjhol 4y ago
    That's because you're not in the "basket of deplorables"
    - 4y ago

Lutger 4y ago

This is incorrect. With some charity, you could say Gab has a different worldview. However, there are also people who think sex with children is ok. That is also technically 'a different worldview'. You see, there is a reason Gab has been cut off, and it is not just that he has a different worldview. If you don't list the specific reason, you distort the most important part of this particular moderation. I noticed this is a fairly common myth in what seems like a right-wing frame of 'progressive politics trying to limit freedom of speech'.