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Honestly I really tried to use the fediverse, but its not good enough. Search is hot garbage, can't find anything useful, or what people are actually talking a

Honestly I really tried to use the fediverse, but its not good enough. Search is hot garbage, can't find anything useful, or what people are actually talking about, not that Twitters search is great by any measure. Missing content when visiting external content, cuz why would anyone ever want to see or search old content. Also most clients I have seen show replies in a really stupid way, you have to actively click to see what the person is replying to, its not visible in the timeline. Outside of the English speaking indie-privacy-tech bubble (and germans seem to be very active on it too) its a ghost land. In general I have been spending more time on hacker news and youtube than Twitter and fediverse, they aren't like pre-elon twitter.

MisterSandman 4y ago
Is search really that big of a deal? > Outside of the English speaking indie-privacy-tech bubble (and germans seem to be very active on it too) its a ghost land. "Outside of the super-active communities using Mastodon everyday, it is a ghostland."
- illiarian 4y ago
  > Is search really that big of a deal? Yes. From finding things to searching archives etc. Tim Bray has a good post on the topic: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/12/30/Mastodon-Privacy-and-Search https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/12/30/Mastodon-... (you can skip to the very last section if you don't want to read it all)
- jacooper 4y ago
  These communities are active if not more active on Twitter. One of the things that made Twitter good is that every niche uses it.
- Hamuko 4y ago
  >Is search really that big of a deal? I used Twitter search constantly.
- crazygringo 4y ago
  Yes, search is the main way to find the conversations people are having on a topic. Search is a principal use case. It's not a small extra feature.
  - scambier 4y ago
    Hashtags are the main way to find topics on Mastodon.
    - jacooper 4y ago
      Which doesn't work because cross-instance search is hot garbage.
bmacho 4y ago
There are no non-js clients (that I am aware of) yet. Twitter is still way more accessible and privacy friendly, due to nitter.
- zimpenfish 4y ago
  Brutaldon[1] works fine without JS (although it doesn't currently work with Akkoma or ~GotoSocial~ instances.) Edit: Just checked with a new checkout and it's working with my GTS instance. Now to figure out how to make it work with Akkoma... [1] https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon
  - bmacho 4y ago
    Thanks! How can I read with it for example https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/110051957865629817 https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/11005195786562981... ?
    - NoGravitas 4y ago
      Log into an instance you have an account on through brutaldon, then paste the URL in the search box. It's not a no-login-url-passthrough like Nitter.
rapnie 4y ago
Search is only hot garbage if you expect the fediverse to be a global public square, which it isn't. The search drills down into your personal interaction history, and that's great.

MisterSandman 4y ago

Is search really that big of a deal? > Outside of the English speaking indie-privacy-tech bubble (and germans seem to be very active on it too) its a ghost land. "Outside of the super-active communities using Mastodon everyday, it is a ghostland."

illiarian 4y ago
> Is search really that big of a deal? Yes. From finding things to searching archives etc. Tim Bray has a good post on the topic: https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/12/30/Mastodon-Privacy-and-Search https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2022/12/30/Mastodon-... (you can skip to the very last section if you don't want to read it all)
jacooper 4y ago
These communities are active if not more active on Twitter. One of the things that made Twitter good is that every niche uses it.
Hamuko 4y ago
>Is search really that big of a deal? I used Twitter search constantly.
crazygringo 4y ago
Yes, search is the main way to find the conversations people are having on a topic. Search is a principal use case. It's not a small extra feature.
- scambier 4y ago
  Hashtags are the main way to find topics on Mastodon.
  - jacooper 4y ago
    Which doesn't work because cross-instance search is hot garbage.

bmacho 4y ago

There are no non-js clients (that I am aware of) yet. Twitter is still way more accessible and privacy friendly, due to nitter.

zimpenfish 4y ago
Brutaldon[1] works fine without JS (although it doesn't currently work with Akkoma or ~GotoSocial~ instances.) Edit: Just checked with a new checkout and it's working with my GTS instance. Now to figure out how to make it work with Akkoma... [1] https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon https://gitlab.com/brutaldon/brutaldon
- bmacho 4y ago
  Thanks! How can I read with it for example https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/110051957865629817 https://mastodon.social/@mastodonusercount/11005195786562981... ?
  - NoGravitas 4y ago
    Log into an instance you have an account on through brutaldon, then paste the URL in the search box. It's not a no-login-url-passthrough like Nitter.

rapnie 4y ago

Search is only hot garbage if you expect the fediverse to be a global public square, which it isn't. The search drills down into your personal interaction history, and that's great.