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You are confusing the 980 pro and the 990 pro. The 990 Pro had a firmware bug causing largely accelerated wear which was fixed by an update in January. The 980

by ls612 4y ago

You are confusing the 980 pro and the 990 pro. The 990 Pro had a firmware bug causing largely accelerated wear which was fixed by an update in January. The 980 Pro had a bug in firmware causing the drive to just fail (enter read only mode) after a certain amount of time, this had been fixed for well over a year in firmware but many people didn't update their firmware and so were surprised when the requisite amount of time passed.

thevagrant 4y ago
Does windows update the firmware automatically? I may have a couple of these ssds but never thought to check firmware
- ls612 4y ago
  No but the Samsung Magician software will automatically tell you to update the firmware and do it for you.
  - bombolo 4y ago
    Ah, for the 6 people in the world who have that?
    - florbo 4y ago
      heh, yeah I installed it just for the update and immediately uninstalled it.
    - favaq 4y ago
      Someone who buys an evo pro knows to install magician, at least to update the firmware for the first use, or so i hope - it would be like buying a high-end nvidia and using the drivers from windows update.
      - addandsubtract 4y ago
        There's a difference between a GPU that gets new drivers every week (and essential to gaming/working) and an SSD, which I personally have never even thought about checking the firmware for.
      - plaguuuuuu 4y ago
        why would you assume you need to install software for a drive? I've not done so and my SSDs work fine..
    - haunter 4y ago
      You can just straight downlod the fw file in a Linux .iso > make a flash drive bootable and update https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/tools/ https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/t...
  - blibble 4y ago
    that software is absolute garbage crapware the disk "migrator" doesn't even bother with the difficulties of migrating in-use files it either just skips them or corrupts them
    - ls612 4y ago
      I just use it to update the drive firmware and as a convenient way to check the SMART data for the drive. It doesn't use hardly any resources in the background so I don't worry about it that much.
TacticalCoder 4y ago
> The 980 Pro had a bug in firmware causing the drive to just fail (enter read only mode) after a certain amount of time, this had been fixed for well over a year in firmware but many people didn't update their firmware I literally just finished putting all the parts of my new build in my basket but haven't ordered it yet. I was going for a 980 Pro (for it seems reasonably priced)... If I buy brand new from Samsung, would you happen to know if I'll get a SSD with the latest firmware or would I need to apply the firmware update by myself? FWIW I ran a 950 Pro when it came out (2015?), then a 970 Evo (which my wife is now using). I've been very happy with these NVMe M.2 SSDs.
- kbar13 4y ago
  just get a wd sn850x
  - TacticalCoder 4y ago
    Oh wow... It is a bit pricier but I just checked on https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/ https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/ and it looks like a fine SSD, thanks for the tip.
    - florbo 4y ago
      fwiw I have both and both are fine with the latest firmware.
    - haunter 4y ago
      just fyi Userbenchmark is total useless and pretty much banned all around on PC enthusiast subs on reddit. They altered scores on a whim or what is "better" or not compared to something in their rankings.
      - addandsubtract 4y ago
        What's a good alternative site to use? I really like their comparison feature.
  - 4y ago
vlovich123 4y ago
I’ve had my 980 pro disconnected for a long time. Is it safe to plug it in to update the firmware?
- ls612 4y ago
  I think that the 980 pro issue came to light a month ago when the earliest made SSDs got old enough to trigger the bug. So you should be good unless you got one of the first ever made.
- scottlamb 4y ago
  Yes. In general: if there's no battery/supercap, it doesn't have a clock that keeps counting when disconnected. Consistent with that, my understanding is that the bug hits when the power-on counter hits a certain threshold.
fxtentacle 4y ago
Nope, I've watched two 980 pro die already. But I wouldn't be surprised if both 980 and 990 had firmware issues.

by ls612 4y ago

thevagrant 4y ago

Does windows update the firmware automatically? I may have a couple of these ssds but never thought to check firmware

ls612 4y ago
No but the Samsung Magician software will automatically tell you to update the firmware and do it for you.
- bombolo 4y ago
  Ah, for the 6 people in the world who have that?
  - florbo 4y ago
    heh, yeah I installed it just for the update and immediately uninstalled it.
  - favaq 4y ago
    Someone who buys an evo pro knows to install magician, at least to update the firmware for the first use, or so i hope - it would be like buying a high-end nvidia and using the drivers from windows update.
    - addandsubtract 4y ago
      There's a difference between a GPU that gets new drivers every week (and essential to gaming/working) and an SSD, which I personally have never even thought about checking the firmware for.
    - plaguuuuuu 4y ago
      why would you assume you need to install software for a drive? I've not done so and my SSDs work fine..
  - haunter 4y ago
    You can just straight downlod the fw file in a Linux .iso > make a flash drive bootable and update https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/tools/ https://semiconductor.samsung.com/consumer-storage/support/t...
- blibble 4y ago
  that software is absolute garbage crapware the disk "migrator" doesn't even bother with the difficulties of migrating in-use files it either just skips them or corrupts them
  - ls612 4y ago
    I just use it to update the drive firmware and as a convenient way to check the SMART data for the drive. It doesn't use hardly any resources in the background so I don't worry about it that much.

TacticalCoder 4y ago

> The 980 Pro had a bug in firmware causing the drive to just fail (enter read only mode) after a certain amount of time, this had been fixed for well over a year in firmware but many people didn't update their firmware I literally just finished putting all the parts of my new build in my basket but haven't ordered it yet. I was going for a 980 Pro (for it seems reasonably priced)... If I buy brand new from Samsung, would you happen to know if I'll get a SSD with the latest firmware or would I need to apply the firmware update by myself? FWIW I ran a 950 Pro when it came out (2015?), then a 970 Evo (which my wife is now using). I've been very happy with these NVMe M.2 SSDs.

kbar13 4y ago
just get a wd sn850x
- TacticalCoder 4y ago
  Oh wow... It is a bit pricier but I just checked on https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/ https://ssd.userbenchmark.com/ and it looks like a fine SSD, thanks for the tip.
  - florbo 4y ago
    fwiw I have both and both are fine with the latest firmware.
  - haunter 4y ago
    just fyi Userbenchmark is total useless and pretty much banned all around on PC enthusiast subs on reddit. They altered scores on a whim or what is "better" or not compared to something in their rankings.
    - addandsubtract 4y ago
      What's a good alternative site to use? I really like their comparison feature.
- 4y ago

vlovich123 4y ago

I’ve had my 980 pro disconnected for a long time. Is it safe to plug it in to update the firmware?

ls612 4y ago
I think that the 980 pro issue came to light a month ago when the earliest made SSDs got old enough to trigger the bug. So you should be good unless you got one of the first ever made.
scottlamb 4y ago
Yes. In general: if there's no battery/supercap, it doesn't have a clock that keeps counting when disconnected. Consistent with that, my understanding is that the bug hits when the power-on counter hits a certain threshold.

fxtentacle 4y ago

Nope, I've watched two 980 pro die already. But I wouldn't be surprised if both 980 and 990 had firmware issues.